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Camelot Tennis Universe => General Pro Player Discussions => Topic started by: sid on October 06, 2013, 06:03:44 am
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Hello Ladies and Gentleman,
I'm new here and looking forward to a great tennis environment. I'm a girl. Thought I'd get that out of the way, since due to my posting style, people always think I'm a dude :).
I'm a Rafa fan, but like a lot of other players. Problem with that is they don't win a lot, so not much to talk about with them.
Must say Shanghai got pretty brutal towards the end, but I always look for the good in a situation.
Yeah Rafa lost, but del Potro was on fire.
Still, I always enjoy a loss or two before the big one, AO 2014. Usually that just makes Rafa sharper. Hoping it happens again.
Welcome :)
I am a big fan of Rafa myself. I am kinda relieved that he lost to Delpo, Nole would have killed him at the Final.
On to Basel - Roger's den ;)
Speaking of Basel, Rogers backyard as in, is this his first time there? For some reason I don't remember Rafa being in Basel at all or I must have blocked it out. In any case, the crowd wouldn't be pretty there against especially against Roger but the appearance fee must be HUGE.
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Hello Ladies and Gentleman,
I'm new here and looking forward to a great tennis environment. I'm a girl. Thought I'd get that out of the way, since due to my posting style, people always think I'm a dude :).
I'm a Rafa fan, but like a lot of other players. Problem with that is they don't win a lot, so not much to talk about with them.
Must say Shanghai got pretty brutal towards the end, but I always look for the good in a situation.
Yeah Rafa lost, but del Potro was on fire.
Still, I always enjoy a loss or two before the big one, AO 2014. Usually that just makes Rafa sharper. Hoping it happens again.
Hola! I totally missed your post yesterday. I am typically a very busy person...especially these days, so don't really find time to browse around and read all posts even here. So do apologize for the delay.
Yes, I hail from Toronto, Canada. lol. And a huge Andy fan. Indifferent to Nadal but I do appreciate his effort and competitiveness.
How did you find us btw? Just curious.
Yes, Shanghai was brutal for Rafa fans mainly because he took a straight loss to a very good hard-courter, but it wasn't highly unexpected. Had he made the final, he would have knocked out by Nole as well or at least most likely. He's road was quite tough (Wawrinka, Del Potro, Nole) so in retrospect, it was probably a good loss or else he would have taken another defeat to Nole. I did think he got lucky with his US Open draw but hey, it is what it is and one time or another, everyone got away with easy draws. Personally I think Del Potro, Isner, Nole and Murray are all quite dangerous for him as far as hard courts are concerned.
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Hello Ladies and Gentleman,
I'm new here and looking forward to a great tennis environment. I'm a girl. Thought I'd get that out of the way, since due to my posting style, people always think I'm a dude :).
I'm a Rafa fan, but like a lot of other players. Problem with that is they don't win a lot, so not much to talk about with them.
Must say Shanghai got pretty brutal towards the end, but I always look for the good in a situation.
Yeah Rafa lost, but del Potro was on fire.
Still, I always enjoy a loss or two before the big one, AO 2014. Usually that just makes Rafa sharper. Hoping it happens again.
Welcome :)
I am a big fan of Rafa myself. I am kinda relieved that he lost to Delpo, Nole would have killed him at the Final.
On to Basel - Roger's den ;)
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welcome to Camelot "the truth". post away and have a blast.
what we like here is the fact that folks have complete freedom to do whatever they please.
come and go as you please. there are zero requirements or demands. people just do their thing.
we are brand spanking new. it will take some time for us to get going a little bit.
feel free to stop by lady Emma's café. emma hails from Canada. she is a huge andy murray fan.
also let us know if you like your own sub forum/board here for nadal or for any other purpose. it will be yours for the asking and you can be a mod of your own place.
we are a little too tiny at the moment but I think it would be cool for guys like andy, nadal, nadal, and nole to have their own sub forums at Camelot.
at any rate make yourself at home.
I am Samson from the Mississippi gulf coast.
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Hello Ladies and Gentleman,
I'm new here and looking forward to a great tennis environment. I'm a girl. Thought I'd get that out of the way, since due to my posting style, people always think I'm a dude :).
I'm a Rafa fan, but like a lot of other players. Problem with that is they don't win a lot, so not much to talk about with them.
Must say Shanghai got pretty brutal towards the end, but I always look for the good in a situation.
Yeah Rafa lost, but del Potro was on fire.
Still, I always enjoy a loss or two before the big one, AO 2014. Usually that just makes Rafa sharper. Hoping it happens again.
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see you next time around mr tee.
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I have to get back to work, CD, break is over :) talk to you later!
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poor stan. as big as his game is, he still has no answers for players who are ranked #1.
he is 0-14 against #1 ranked players.
I am pretty sure he did beat Fed once but maybe Fed was #2 at the time.
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poor stan. as big as his game is, he still has no answers for players who are ranked #1.
he is 0-14 against #1 ranked players.
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rafa got a very tough draw this time.
wawrinka is a tough customer. the guy has incredible power off the ground. he can also serve pretty damn huge.
and now nadal has to deal with the hardest hitter on the planet. de potro is serving bigger than he ever has. being 6 foot 6 doesn't hurt if you want a massive serve.
now that this match is here, nadal has to make it work for him. dealing with del potro will prepare him best for the final but he cant spend 3+ hours on the court against him.
so that is the key for nadal. finish del potro in 2 hours and 30 minutes or less and then take his best shot in the final.
I am not waking up early to watch this one. I will just have to catch it tomorrow night on the tennis channel.
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nole has taken 6 in a row from Tsonga.
Nole did not seem that invincible today against Monfils, maybe Tsonga can pull of the upset tonight.
Rafa - Delpo will be a great match, I am debating whether to wake up at 6am on a Saturday :)
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nole has taken 6 in a row from Tsonga.
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order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=5014
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nadal's draw is quite tough.
he now has to defeat the two hottest players on the tour to win this event.
nole has beaten tsonga 6 times in a row.
this is a very tough assignment for tsonga.
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See you later. CD!
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this game is brutal. you only get a few chances against the best. you are dead in the water if you don't take them.
nadal tried to give away the breaker but stan would not take it. maybe the 2nd set would have been different if he had taken that breaker.
anyway I am going to get on the road. see you next time around.
I still think that the players to watch here del potro and nole.
you can just see it on nadal`s face. he is out of gas. the guy looks anything but fresh and ready.
he looks tired and his movement is stale and weary.
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I feel bad for Wawa. He completely folded in the second after all those missed chances to win the first set.
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Great fight from Nadal to save a set point at 5:6 and then save another one and win the tiebreak.
Then he breaks right away in the second set. Still not playing very well, his serving has been pretty crappy in this match, Stan win some spectacular return winners!
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nadal takes the breaker.
that was a shaky push volley at the net but it worked.
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they are both trying to give away the breaker.
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nole and del potro get it done.
wawrinka is pushing nadal in the first set.
here are the live scores:
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/live/#inscore_ifheight_xdc_3823
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nadal is starting to serve a little better so maybe that will help his cause going forward.
tennis channel is about show his match against berlocq right now. I think I will watch a few games of the first set.
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agreed. maybe Tsonga can trouble him a little bit.
Tsonga has been battling his own health issues. he has missed so many events.
so he is just doing the best he can at the moment.
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order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=5014
I cant see monfils doing much against nole. he is not consistent enough for nole.
Nole is on fire, he won't be troubled by Monfils. I can see Tsonga potentially winning a set in the SF though.
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order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=5014
I cant see monfils doing much against nole. he is not consistent enough for nole.
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nadal and wawrinka get it done.
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almagro knocks out berdych in 3. takes the 3rd set tiebreaker.
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unbelievable. I am just waking up general sid and looking at all these scores.
Tsonga and monfils are having a good tournament. and ferru is out at hands of mayer.
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/live/#inscore_ifheight_xdc_4666
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Roger lost the last set 6-3 Monfils wins 6-4 6-7 6-3
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Roger has dig himself out of a hole v Monfils,roger won tb 7-5,1-1 in sets atm.
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Good night, CD! Laters!
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I am hitting the sack.
catch you next time.
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dolgo is one hell of a shot maker but he is not consistent.
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he sliced it ok in new York but his slices are sitting up again.
I think he does that because he is tired. he is smart enough to know by now that the top guns eat slices for breakfast.
slice backhand is a must have shot but it wont bring home the bacon.
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I just saw him hit a swinging topspin forehand style volley at the net. pitiful.
it was such an easy put away volley anyway. he should have hit the bloody volley right. even against dolgo he shows no inclination to play the right away.
he is also running around his backhand too much.
but like you said, the dude is burned mentally and physically. his style of play is too demanding and it takes its toll by the end of the season.
Yep, I don't like this at all. Plus, he slices a lot on that wing too. He will get killed against Nole or even Wawrinka!
Dolgo just donated the break, horrendous smash :D
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I just saw him hit a swinging topspin forehand style volley at the net. pitiful.
it was such an easy put away volley anyway. he should have hit the bloody volley right. even against dolgo he shows no inclination to play the right away.
he is also running around his backhand too much.
but like you said, the dude is burned mentally and physically. his style of play is too demanding and it takes its toll by the end of the season.
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I am taking a look at the nadal vs dologo match. just 5 games into the first set and I am seeing indications of nadal wanting to trust his backhand less.
huge mistake. this is dolgopolov. nadal would win this match in 59 minutes.
he should have trust his backhand more because he will need it against nole or roger in the final.
one small difference from last week: nadal is looking to serve a little better this week and it shows.
so basically 4 things are hurting nadal right now:
1. mental and physical fatigue
2. some loss in confidence off the backhand wing
3. not returning well. he returned horribly last week at the china open
4. some serve issues
you cant beat nole on the hard courts in a best of 3 sets format if you are having these issues.
I agree about the backhand. So far his serve looks much better than it did in Beijing, perhaps this is due to the faster surface. The mental fatigue is what worries me the most. He has already played 70 singles matches since February and he looks burned out.
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I am taking a look at the nadal vs dologo match. just 5 games into the first set and I am seeing indications of nadal wanting to trust his backhand less.
huge mistake. this is dolgopolov. nadal would win this match in 59 minutes.
he should have trust his backhand more because he will need it against nole or roger in the final.
one small difference from last week: nadal is looking to serve a little better this week and it shows.
so basically 4 things are hurting nadal right now:
1. mental and physical fatigue
2. some loss in confidence off the backhand wing
3. not returning well. he returned horribly last week at the china open
4. some serve issues
you cant beat nole on the hard courts in a best of 3 sets format if you are having these issues.
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Delpo seemed a little bit ill during his match yesterday. Him and Berlocq withdrew from doubles .
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its his first match after a while. he could start to get the hang of things if the back is holding up.
he is usually fairly tough on quicker hard courts. nole is going to be very hard to beat here but roger is one player who can play lights out tennis and knock him out.
we will just have to see. del potro is another one who can take the fight to nole but now I am not sure.
I read somewhere that he is not 100%.
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Nole - Fed will be quite interesting. I just finished watching Fed-Seppi on replay, too many errors by Fed.
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I was just looking at the draw.
berdych had a bad back last week and I hear del potro had some sort of an issue as well. some of these players are tired and hurting.
rafa is worn out as well but I think he might try to make a run for the final and see what happens.
rafa`a draw looks fairly decent.
nole does well on these fast hard courts. he has to be the favorite at the moment. roger is the only one who can stop him from getting into the final.
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Some great R3 matches! I will watch the replays tomorrow. I might be able to catch a little of Rafa's match in the morning.
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order of play for tomorrow:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=5014
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Hello Mr. Tee. I'm having trouble quoting posts on this forum. It just says Loading at the top of the page, and never finishes.
Anyway, how do I rate Rafa's chances for the rest of the year?
Hmm, historically he has never been that great at the tail end of the year, so one wouldn't normally expect great things from him. Also, he has played a pretty heavy schedule now for close to 8 months. One would think that he might start tailing off a bit soon.
Then again, he missed the early tournaments and Australian Open. He might have something left and his form and confidence has been so good in itself recently ( I think better during the summer hard court than clay season, believe it or not), that he may just carry it to the rest of the year. And as you infer, his chief competitors' form is a bit suspect, though Djokovic is not off by much.
Still, traditionally the indoor courts don't play to his strengths. They are not high bouncing. So I suspect that if he plays someone that enjoys indoor and lower bouncing courts, Rafa could have trouble against them. I personally think that it would help Rafa for 2014 if he were to not go all out in this latter part of the year. He's done more than enough this year.
So specifically, given his draw in Shanghai, I wouldn't be surprise to see him make the final especially if he continue to play outdoors if the remnants from the typhoon are gone. I wouldn't be surprised to see him skip Basel. But if he goes there, I think there are other players that can challenge him there. Paris is tricky, since the WTF again follow it immediately. How many of the WTF players, including Rafa will be willing to put in a big effort there? I think Rafa is eligible to skip Paris (he has 2 exemptions). So he might skip there or Basel, but probably not both.
Given the current form of the traditionally tough players at the WTF and the O2 arena, one might think that this would be Rafa's best chance to finally win a year end championship. But again, the surface just works against his game relative to others whom it favors. It's about as tough for him to win there as it is for others to win at Roland Garros. Can he win there? Sure, if things go right for him. Will he? Who the heck knows? Federer could return to form and if he plays at even a fairly high level he is nearly unbeatable there. Djokovic also likes the surface, and even Ferrer is pretty good on it. I don't think it will be easy for Rafa. But he's been almost unnaturally unbelievable this year, so who would count him out? Not me. :)
Respectfully,
masterclass
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I had a feeling that roger was not going to have any issues with seppi. this might be the tournament where he can get on a bit of a roll.
live scores:
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/live/#inscore_ifheight_xdc_6772
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scores and results:
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/results/
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Hello general Hercules, RF20Lennon, Mr. Tee, etc.
Roger Federer played his first match since the US Open, doubles with China's Ze Zhang as a wildcard team. They easily beat Kevin Anderson and Dmitry Tursunov, 6-2, 6-1 in under 48 minutes. Federer looked decent, especially on his serve, and I thought Zhang played very well. They will play the 5th seeded team of Dodig/Melo next. They are in the Bryans half of the draw, where they would meet in a semifinal if they both reach that far.
Here's the full match if anyone is interested:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqauBWFdbqw)
I've advocated in the past that Roger should play more doubles when he gets a chance. I think it sharpens his game.
He'll start his Shanghai singles run on Wednesday against Hewitt or Seppi.
It seems strange not to see Andy Murray in Shanghai. He was champion 2 of the last 3 years and lost a tough final to Novak Djokovic last year. Let's hope he recovers well from his surgery and makes it back by the Australian Open. He may return as early as late November to play in the Barbados Dream Cup exhibition tournament, as a WTF appearance looks very unlikely.
Nadal is 2013 player of the year and comeback player of the year without having to do a darn thing more. He needs to avoid overplaying as he did in 2008 and arrive at the Australian Open rested and in good shape. After Shanghai, I heard he is thinking of playing indoor hard courts of Basel, Paris, and the WTF to finish the season, and then going on an exhibition tour in late November in South America. He's also scheduled to play in late December in the Abu Dhabi Mubadala 3 day invitational, before heading to Australia.
Beijing should have been a bit of a confidence booster for Novak Djokovic. Let's see if he can use that to his benefit the rest of the season and finish strong. Juan Martin Del Potro is also looking in better shape heading into the home stretch. If he can avoid injury, he figures to do well. Stan Wawrinka and Richard Gasquet have had pretty good years. Let's see how much they have left. Wawrinka's been nursing an upper thigh injury; hopefully it is better.
Respectfully,
masterclass
Hi, masterclass! Your post is really is, as usual, a masterclass :) How do you rate Rafa's chances at the remaining Masters tournaments, Basel, and WTF this year given the current form of the top players?
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f lopez, Popsickle, and Anderson get it done. here are other scores:
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/results/
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top guns will be in action on Wednesday. here is the order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=5014
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Welcome to Camelot swordtennis,Djokovic got a good draw & should go deep.
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Hello general Hercules, RF20Lennon, Mr. Tee, etc.
Roger Federer played his first match since the US Open, doubles with China's Ze Zhang as a wildcard team. They easily beat Kevin Anderson and Dmitry Tursunov, 6-2, 6-1 in under 48 minutes. Federer looked decent, especially on his serve, and I thought Zhang played very well. They will play the 5th seeded team of Dodig/Melo next. They are in the Bryans half of the draw, where they would meet in a semifinal if they both reach that far.
Here's the full match if anyone is interested:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqauBWFdbqw)
I've advocated in the past that Roger should play more doubles when he gets a chance. I think it sharpens his game.
He'll start his Shanghai singles run on Wednesday against Hewitt or Seppi.
It seems strange not to see Andy Murray in Shanghai. He was champion 2 of the last 3 years and lost a tough final to Novak Djokovic last year. Let's hope he recovers well from his surgery and makes it back by the Australian Open. He may return as early as late November to play in the Barbados Dream Cup exhibition tournament, as a WTF appearance looks very unlikely.
Nadal is 2013 player of the year and comeback player of the year without having to do a darn thing more. He needs to avoid overplaying as he did in 2008 and arrive at the Australian Open rested and in good shape. After Shanghai, I heard he is thinking of playing indoor hard courts of Basel, Paris, and the WTF to finish the season, and then going on an exhibition tour in late November in South America. He's also scheduled to play in late December in the Abu Dhabi Mubadala 3 day invitational, before heading to Australia.
Beijing should have been a bit of a confidence booster for Novak Djokovic. Let's see if he can use that to his benefit the rest of the season and finish strong. Juan Martin Del Potro is also looking in better shape heading into the home stretch. If he can avoid injury, he figures to do well. Stan Wawrinka and Richard Gasquet have had pretty good years. Let's see how much they have left. Wawrinka's been nursing an upper thigh injury; hopefully it is better.
Respectfully,
masterclass
roger is looking sharp general masterclass.
and how about the Chinese player? he looks quite tall.
and quite good too.
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I am going to have to agree with you baron britbox.
also he is quite vulnerable in the best of 3 sets formats on quicker courts. fognini y had him on the ropes and should have been able to take that match at the china open.
I know all those nadal fans are hungry for that wtf crown but it is not going to come all that easily. nole could be a terror there again.
and roger might have the last word at wtf. he does well there.
it is good to see roger back. now we need andy back. the game is not the same without roger and andy.
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This is traditionally more Nole's time of year and Nadal has already secured the US Open, so I'm not sure he'll be overly concerned about Shanghai.
I still suspect he'd like the Year end #1 though and I think he'll make a run at the WTF to add to the resume.
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welcome to Camelot general swordtennis.
you will always be welcome here.
I think nole is on a bit of roll now. his movement is crisp and he is striking the ball confidently.
right now my pick would have to be nole. its either him or del potro.
I don't think nadal is going to get this one done.
did you see your amazing super sig? I made 4 versions of it. it is posted at Camelot/general chat thread right next door.
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Just want to say Hello! This should be a decent tourney. Djokovic's got a fairly easy draw. Nadal will have some work in front of him. Might be good one if DelPo can get to Nadal.
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http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=5014
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http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/tennis/the-chinese-revolution-country-aims-to-become-world-tennis-power-8865107.html
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night general masterclass.
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Just so general. Ok, I'm calling it a night. 2 am now. Have a good evening.
Respectfully,
masterclass
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by the way I just spoke with the baron. he said he will stop by Camelot.
I could not agree more. nadal managed to have perhaps his finest year since 2010. it all worked out but now his greed is getting the best of him again.
he did this in 2008: he played and won more matches on the hard courts than anyone alive in 2008. it netted him the Australian open in 2009 then it rendered him useless for a year.
so that is one year gone from his very prime. and in the process he did untold damage to his knee and his joints.
bottom line: he has lost at least 2 years of his prime years because of his madness and his greed.
I would forget about the damn #1 ranking and just save myself for 2014.
what nadal achieved this year is far more than just sick. it is ridiculous at best after that 7 month layoff. nobody ever expected it.
his style of play is not easy. it is the most demanding style there is.
he is taking way too much risk right now.
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Spot on general. I think a lot of rabid Nadal fans want the man to play and win every tournament out there. It's just not going to happen. He had a great run this year since his return in Vina del Mar, making what, 13 of 14 finals and winning 10 of them, plus over 10 million dollars in prize money. I personally think he should take a short rest, go fishing or play golf or poker. How much can one man do?
He is also going to be the hunted man now, not the hunter. It does make a difference. Ask Novak or Roger or even Murray.
A mental break is also needed occasionally.
Respectfully,
masterclass
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I have a feeling that roger and del potro will do well in Beijing.
nadal will collect his $1.5 million appearance fee and then try to rake in a few points. I cant see him winning it.
he looked very tired against fognini and nole.
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that is a great post general masterclass.
I will watch that match later tonight before I hit the sack. I have wanted to see roger play doubles.
doubles is a far better deal for somebody like roger than for nadal. nadal plays it wrong and is not able to derive the true benefits of doubles.
often times he just retreats to the baseline in doubles. and they usually try to hit to his doubles partner.
so all it is a waste of time for nadal and waste of valuable energy.
but roger on the other hand can use the doubles to get sharper for singles.
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Hello general Hercules, RF20Lennon, Mr. Tee, etc.
Roger Federer played his first match since the US Open, doubles with China's Ze Zhang as a wildcard team. They easily beat Kevin Anderson and Dmitry Tursunov, 6-2, 6-1 in under 48 minutes. Federer looked decent, especially on his serve, and I thought Zhang played very well. They will play the 5th seeded team of Dodig/Melo next. They are in the Bryans half of the draw, where they would meet in a semifinal if they both reach that far.
Here's the full match if anyone is interested:
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqauBWFdbqw)
I've advocated in the past that Roger should play more doubles when he gets a chance. I think it sharpens his game.
He'll start his Shanghai singles run on Wednesday against Hewitt or Seppi.
It seems strange not to see Andy Murray in Shanghai. He was champion 2 of the last 3 years and lost a tough final to Novak Djokovic last year. Let's hope he recovers well from his surgery and makes it back by the Australian Open. He may return as early as late November to play in the Barbados Dream Cup exhibition tournament, as a WTF appearance looks very unlikely.
Nadal is 2013 player of the year and comeback player of the year without having to do a darn thing more. He needs to avoid overplaying as he did in 2008 and arrive at the Australian Open rested and in good shape. After Shanghai, I heard he is thinking of playing indoor hard courts of Basel, Paris, and the WTF to finish the season, and then going on an exhibition tour in late November in South America. He's also scheduled to play in late December in the Abu Dhabi Mubadala 3 day invitational, before heading to Australia.
Beijing should have been a bit of a confidence booster for Novak Djokovic. Let's see if he can use that to his benefit the rest of the season and finish strong. Juan Martin Del Potro is also looking in better shape heading into the home stretch. If he can avoid injury, he figures to do well. Stan Wawrinka and Richard Gasquet have had pretty good years. Let's see how much they have left. Wawrinka's been nursing an upper thigh injury; hopefully it is better.
Respectfully,
masterclass
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order of play for tomorrow:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=5014
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welcome to Camelot.
Camelot general chat is right next door to lady emma`a café.
great to see you here. something is wrong with your avi. it did not quite come out right.
also I am thinking about creating a special thread to honor roger. feel free to do so if you wish.
I will be more than happy to contribute.
I do believe that nole is going to take shanghai. only person that can stop him there is roger. he has the game to trouble nole in a best of 3 sets foremat.
nadal is worn out. he is just out picking up his massive appearance fee and racking up points in case he needs them.
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It'll be interesting to see how Nadal regroups after Beijing and how Fed does after a long break! Hopefully it should be a great tournament.
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perhaps he wants to lock up the ranking situation before showing up at the O2 arena in London.
but I agree. he needs to skip paris at least.
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maybe he is just getting matches under his belt so he will be ready for the Australian open.
who knows what the hell he is thinking but all this tennis activity is way too risky at this point. this is how he has always gotten injured. he overdoes it.
I would rest at this point and train a little bit on clay to keep the ground game sharp. clay is also easier on the joints for him.
But possibly playing Beijing/Shanghai/Basel/Paris/WTF is way, waaaaay too much! I don't know what Rafa's thinking but he better take some rest before WTF.
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maybe he is just getting matches under his belt so he will be ready for the Australian open.
who knows what the hell he is thinking but all this tennis activity is way too risky at this point. this is how he has always gotten injured. he overdoes it.
I would rest at this point and train a little bit on clay to keep the ground game sharp. clay is also easier on the joints for him.
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Yep, I also think that playing Beijing was a mistake. Let's see what happens in shanghai now, it is not too late to withdraw ;)
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order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=5014
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he really should have skipped the china open. he wasted too much time trying to get rid of fognini.
and there really was no need to hand nole a win. I saw the first set.
nadal was simply terrible and nole could not miss. and hence you have a straight set win by nole.
nadal could have used this time more wisely like getting some much needed rest and recuperation.
and putting in work on the backhand and the return during his training sessions.
he lost because of this:
1. his backhand and his return were terrible
2. he was stale which led to his movement being weak
and of course nole is playing well again so that is a huge factor.
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I sincerely hope Rafa withdraws or tanks in R2/R3.
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que pasa general sid. thanks for firing up the shanghai masters thread.
here is the draw:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Share/Event-Draws.aspx?Year=2013&EventId=5014&Draw=ms
looks like nole got lucky. he does not have to deal with del potro. roger does have to game to derail him in a best of 3 sets foremat.
we will just have to see. its tough not having murray in the mix. it makes it too easy for somebody.
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