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Camelot Tennis Universe => General Pro Player Discussions => Topic started by: Clay Death on January 26, 2014, 10:32:20 pm
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I meant to tell masterclass the other day, the day Andy lost to Cilic, was that, I don't actually find Nadal's comeback last year as miraculous. Because first of all, he didn't have a surgery like Andy but more importantly, Nadal was very smart about his schedule. He skipped AO and started out playing in a 250 event on clay far away from rest of the big guys. And mind you, he did lose in the final to a no-namer but what it had essentially done was that, it gave him enough confidence. And since clay is his best surface that happens to come naturally to him, he was able to make the final without too much trouble though he struggled a bit if you guys remember in his earlier rounds there. His next tournament was also a small tournament (Acapulco I believe) and he won that one. So as I see it, he scheduled his return in a way where it would not only build his confidence but also, it wouldn't be much trouble because of the surface and away from the top guys. That was a smart move not a miraculous journey or a comeback.
As to Andy, he should have skipped AO too but he instead got to play onluy 1 small tournament and then he was thrown into the big ocean, so obviously it wasn't a very ideal scenario for him. I don't have regrets but it's understood why one was successful and the other wasn't. Nadal had the whole clay season to play and work on his confidence before making RG, Andy, on the other hand, didn't have that option available to him. He could have avoided AO of course but then again he was the runner up there, so I guess he didn't want to miss the opportunity and too many ranking points.
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So happy for Berdych. One of my favorites players.
Glad he got another title to add to his stash.
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Berdych came to party hearty in Rotterdam general masterclass.
he brought his monster ground game and it all worked out.
congrats to berdych and his fans.
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Berdych routines Cilic 4 and 2. Congratulations to Tomas Berdych and his fans! First tour victory since Stockholm in 2012.
Commiserations to Marin Cilic and his supporters. He's been hot lately, with a 250 win and a competitive 500 final.
Respectfully,
masterclass
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it's the clash of the titans in Rotterdam.
cilic vs berdych:
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berdych on fire in Rotterdam. removes gulbis from the facilities in straights:
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/live/#inscore_ifheight_xdc_4781
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order of play for tomorrow:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=407
the coast looks clear for berdych but gulbis may have other plans.
and how about sijsling. what tournament he is having.
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general masterclass the coast is clearing for berdych.
he may just snatch this title.
I still worry about his consistency in the clutch but maybe he can make it happen this time around.
he is in the hunt now.
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affirmative. he is just gathering his game and his fitness right now.
it will come. he is my heavy favorite for the Wimbledon title.
lendl believes that andy will do well on clay this year.
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It's alright. I can take losses. Andy will have to make his own path once again and rise to the top. I have complete faith in him so I am not worried.
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oh well Emma. it was just not meant to be today for Andy.
at least he is out there trying to hit his stride.
he just to keep working hard. good things will happen.
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Andy played quite crap while Cilic played really well so the right person advanced in this case. Andy will have to earn it from this point on. A loss can turn things around for him if were to take anything positive out of it. Sampras' loss to Edberg in the USO final in 1992 turned his whole pro career around for example.
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Uhh, all to no avail. Marin Cilic served it out. Tough match for Mr. Murray, OBE. First serve was not there for him, too many rally balls floated out on him, and a hot Cilic continues to serve and play well.
Best of 3 can be too quick sometimes. Still this was an unscheduled wild card entry for Murray to get more matches in, so mission accomplished.
Andy should be looking better by Miami. I'd say at least SF.
Respectfully,
masterclass
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Now that was a special backhand shot by Murray.. Wow. Still down 30-15
Respectfully,
masterclass
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Here it is folks. Cilic with a chance to serve it out. Will he get tight as he has in the past? Will Andy come up with something special? It's Cilic's match to win now.
Respectfully,
masterclass
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Andy simply hasn't had enough tour matches since being out since September, especially against top players. First one he had was Federer, and Murray said it was a shock to play him. Cilic is not necessarily a top player, but he is hot at the moment. Hardly anyone can come back after a layoff with miraculous play like Nadal did last year after so few matches.
This is normal... not really anything to be upset about. Andy needs more tough matches like this. Big picture? He needs to be ready by Wimbledon.
Respectfully,
masterclass
That is true but Andy has his own demons too to deal with.
Andy's not coming back in this one. Cilic is only 1 game away from victory.
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He had a few chances to turn things around but wasted all of them. He's playing poorly judging by the stats. Cilic knows Andy's not totally match fit yet so he's feeling rather confident about his own game.
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Andy simply hasn't had enough tour matches since being out since September, especially against top players. First one he had was Federer, and Murray said it was a shock to play him. Cilic is not necessarily a top player, but he is hot at the moment. Hardly anyone can come back after a layoff with miraculous play like Nadal did last year after so few matches.
This is normal... not really anything to be upset about. Andy needs more tough matches like this. Big picture? He needs to be ready by Wimbledon.
Respectfully,
masterclass
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Murray in trouble now. He had Cilic down love-30 on Cilic's service game, but Cilic threw 4 straight bombs in to take the game. Then Murray couldn't get a first serve in to save his life, quickly down 15-40. He saved the break points to make it to deuce thanks to a tight forehand into the net by Cilic on a sitter. Then Murray flubbed it with a couple of wild shots. Andy needs to get his act together quickly, or hope Cilic gets tight again as he sees the finish line in sight.
Respectfully,
masterclass
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I don't actually see why Andy should be rusty. He's played a very well DC tie just a week before. He might just not be motivated.
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Andy serving very poorly - 56% first serve, 1 Ace and 2 DFs.
Cilic at 70%, 4 Aces no DFs.
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Time for Andy to break.
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cilic is coming into this tournament with some momentum on his side.
this will be good test for Andy.
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Well I am taping this match so hopefully I won't have to go back to a losing match.
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Cilic is taking the 1st set for sure. It's just 1 break but Andy wasn't able to break back. He must raise his level in the 2nd.
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cilic has the hot hand at the moment.
first set could be lost for Andy.
hopefully Andy can turn this around.
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Based on the past, Cilic should win the first set with Murray getting out of the gate slowly. Then it will be a tight second set, maybe a tiebreaker, with Murray getting it after Cilic had a chance to close it out. Then Murray would break early in the 3rd due to Marin being down, and that would be it.
But this is a New Year, and Cilic has made some changes, and Murray still isn't match fit in my opinion. It might be the best chance Cilic has... but can he take it?
Respectfully,
masterclass
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Okay, so I am board for Andy's match. ;D
I really enjoy his matches vs Cilic as Cilic tends to bring out all sorts of things from Andy. lol
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you are right Emma. gulbis is talk of the town at the moment.
he keeps removing the big stars from the facilities.
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Thanks for the schedule general hercules.
Andy Murray, OBE, has a clear path in the draw now. #7 Youzhny gone. #5 Tsonga gone, #4 Gasquet gone.
No more seeds left to face. It's really on his racquet now.
He still looks a little rusty at times, which is to be expected given his lack of match play, especially against the top players, since last September.
He can't afford more lulls as he moves on. These are best out of 3 set matches. One can be booted out in a twinkling of an eye if one can't maintain consistency. Marin Cilic is next for him.
Home favorite Igor Sijsling is serving and playing well, can he get past Kohli to make it to the SF?
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The remaining top half QF's are loaded with tough big hitters. #1 Del Potro vs Gulbis, #3 Berdych vs. Janowicz,
Berdych vs. Murray in the final? I'm still concerned that Del Potro's left wrist might not be in top shape after his recent trip to New York to go get diagnosis and treatment.
Good luck and best of health to the remaining players at Rotterdam.
Respectfully,
masterclass
I don't think it's as clear cut for Murray as yet given that Cilic can really be handful at times and as you stated, Murray still looks a bit rusty. All the more reason why though he should be playing Cilic.
Both Jerzy and Del Potro out but Berdych is still in picture and despite losing a set to JJ just this morning, he too is looking good and seems to be on par with Gulbis.
Kohli seems to be in form as well and Sijsling does seem to be the right opponent for him at the moment. If Andy gets past Cilic today then I take it Kohli will be next.
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Gulbis has just taken out the big guy - Del Potro. Yesterday Dimitrov and today Del Potro. He's on fire. I'd like a Gulbis vs Murray final. Oh dear God please let it happen.
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it is looking like a berdych vs murray final for now general.
berdych's inconsistency should be a cause for concern for his camp. you just never know with him.
he fumbles the ball a little too much in the clutch.
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Thanks for the schedule general hercules.
Andy Murray, OBE, has a clear path in the draw now. #7 Youzhny gone. #5 Tsonga gone, #4 Gasquet gone.
No more seeds left to face. It's really on his racquet now.
He still looks a little rusty at times, which is to be expected given his lack of match play, especially against the top players, since last September.
He can't afford more lulls as he moves on. These are best out of 3 set matches. One can be booted out in a twinkling of an eye if one can't maintain consistency. Marin Cilic is next for him.
Home favorite Igor Sijsling is serving and playing well, can he get past Kohli to make it to the SF?
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The remaining top half QF's are loaded with tough big hitters. #1 Del Potro vs Gulbis, #3 Berdych vs. Janowicz,
Berdych vs. Murray in the final? I'm still concerned that Del Potro's left wrist might not be in top shape after his recent trip to New York to go get diagnosis and treatment.
Good luck and best of health to the remaining players at Rotterdam.
Respectfully,
masterclass
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blockbuster matches in Rotterdam tomorrow.
here is the order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=407
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jerzy sends tommy has home in straights.
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del potro continues to shake and bake in Rotterdam.
gulbis removed dimitrov from the facilities in straights.
here are the other scores:
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/live/#inscore_ifheight_xdc_4231
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gulbis vs dimitrov is the blockbuster match of the day tomorrow in Rotterdam.
here is the order of play:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=407
lot of star power in this event.
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well one big star is out of there.
cilic knocked out the #5 seed Tsonga.
andy and del potro advance as well:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2014/02/7/Rotterdam-Wednesday-Murray-del-Potro-Gasquet.aspx
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television coverage should begin tomorrow.
I will check the tennis channel schedule.
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There is a lot of star power there. I wonder if they'll televise any of this.
I haven't checked because TTC is re-running the FED Cup over and over again.
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Round 1 Results
Singles
Ernests Gulbis def. Denis Istomin; 6-4, 7-6
Igor Sijsling def. No. 7 Mikhail Youzhny; 6-2, 6-2
No. 8 Grigor Dimitrov def. Dmitry Tursunov; 6-2, 1-6, 6-4
Marin Cilic def. Lukas Rosol; 6-2, 6-2
Jerzy Janowica def. Julien Benneteau; 3-6, 6-4, 6-4
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jerzy is shaking and baking in Rotterdam.
he coughed up the first set but came back to snatch it anyway.
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order of play for tomorrow:
andy has the night match:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=407
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it is dimitrov in 3 in Rotterdam:
http://www.livescore.in/tennis/
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cilic demolishes rosol 6-2, 6-2.
and sijsling upsets youzhny.
here are all the scores:
http://www.tennisexplorer.com/live/#inscore_ifheight_xdc_5818
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order of play for tomorrow:
http://www.atpworldtour.com/Scores/schedule.aspx?EventId=407
cilic vs rosol should be good.
one player is 6 foot 6 and the other one is 6 foot 5.
or rosol is close to 6 foot 5 anyway.
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who are you folks picking for the title in Rotterdam?
will it be andy or will it be del potro?
or do you have somebody else in mind?
berdych and Tsonga are more than capable to snatch the title here.
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we might as well bump this now.
this event has some star power: andy murray has decided to compete.
we will post the draw as soon as we can get it.
we lost the Australian Open champion but we gained a Wimbledon champion.
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10.02.2014 ABN AMRO World Tennis Tournament
Rotterdam, The Netherlands Indoor
Hard € 1,369,305
(€ 1,500,755) SGL 32 DBL 16 0900 235 24 69