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CAMELOT MULTI PURPOSE CENTER => LITTLE NOTES BY CARMEN => Topic started by: fancymeny on February 20, 2014, 08:52:13 am

Title: Re: WHAT SIN DESTROYED FOR WOMEN
Post by: Clay Death on February 20, 2014, 07:27:37 pm

violence and sexual violence in particular is running rampant in some countries like india.


by some reports it is worse that ever because the politician refuse to do anything about it.

police can be bribed and bought easily there.

Title: Re: WHAT SIN DESTROYED FOR WOMEN
Post by: thetruth on February 20, 2014, 01:19:51 pm

Quote from: fancymeny on February 20, 2014, 01:01:47 pm

So true Lady TT. When Eve sinned she was fully aware that they were not permitted to eat from the tree of knowledge (Genesis 3:2-3).  However, it took the serpent (Satan) who is astute to deceive her.  He must have been studying and watching them closely.  When Satan saw her, he calculated his approach and knew that she would be the one to cause the domino effect and thus she was deceived. 

Look at this Genesis 3:6:   

The woman was convinced. She saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious, and she wanted the wisdom it would give her. So she took some of the fruit and ate it. Then she gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it, too. (New Living Translation)

 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it had a pleasing appearance and that the tree was desirable for making one wise, she took some of its fruit and ate. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her; and he ate. (Complete Jewish Translation)

So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. (King James)

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and ate, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he ate. (21st Century King James Version)

Adam was with her!  He just went along with what Eve said.  She didn't deceive him, nor is there an account of it.......regardless.....sin entered into the Garden of Eden and the consequences of it all is still resounding today.

I agree. Eve was deceived by the serpent, but Adam made no protest, knowing what God had told him as far as the terms of their covenant.

Title: Re: WHAT SIN DESTROYED FOR WOMEN
Post by: fancymeny on February 20, 2014, 01:01:47 pm

So true Lady TT. When Eve sinned she was fully aware that they were not permitted to eat from the tree of knowledge (Genesis 3:2-3).  However, it took the serpent (Satan) who is astute to deceive her.  He must have been studying and watching them closely.  When Satan saw her, he calculated his approach and knew that she would be the one to cause the domino effect and thus she was deceived. 

Look at this Genesis 3:6:   

The woman was convinced. She saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious, and she wanted the wisdom it would give her. So she took some of the fruit and ate it. Then she gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it, too. (New Living Translation)

 When the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it had a pleasing appearance and that the tree was desirable for making one wise, she took some of its fruit and ate. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her; and he ate. (Complete Jewish Translation)

So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate. (King James)

And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof and ate, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he ate. (21st Century King James Version)

Adam was with her!  He just went along with what Eve said.  She didn't deceive him, nor is there an account of it.......regardless.....sin entered into the Garden of Eden and the consequences of it all is still resounding today.

Title: Re: WHAT SIN DESTROYED FOR WOMEN
Post by: thetruth on February 20, 2014, 11:59:18 am

Amen, Carmen.

This is so interesting. For years I went to sleep listening to the Bible. It was so soothing, tranquil, and serene. One night I wondered about this very passage. And I asked God to reveal the meaning of the story to me.

In Genesis, when Adam blams Eve, a thought occurred to me. That story is often presented as Eve's fault. But, if you read carefully, God made the covenant with Adam before Eve even arrived.

So, it was Adam who broke the covenant because that covenant was not made with both of them present.

Still, people have blamed Eve, although she was never a part of the actual covenant.

When we read the Bible we have to ask questions of God. He answers, because he has promised us that he would.

Title: WHAT SIN DESTROYED FOR WOMEN
Post by: fancymeny on February 20, 2014, 08:52:13 am

WHAT SIN DESTROYED FOR WOMEN

The Oxford Dictionary describes MALE CHAUVINISM as male prejudice against women and the belief that men are superior in terms of ability, intelligence, etc.

Male chauvinism and the oppression of woman has existed from the moment humanity sinned. The first account we read is when Adam said, “THE WOMAN WHOM THOU GAVEST TO BE WITH ME, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat,” Genesis 3:12.  In this account, Adam blames God for his own failure in obedience and to cover his own transgression he blames the woman (Eve) whom God created to be his (Adams’) companion (Genesis 2:18).

Before Eve was created, God brought all the animals to Adam so that he could name each one, but within the animal kingdom Adam could not find a suitable helper (v.20). When Eve was created Adam exclaimed, “AT LAST!” “This one is BONE FROM MY BONE, and FLESH FROM MY FLESH! She will be called ‘woman,’ because she was taken from ‘man.’”, Genesis 2:23. Does this sound as if Adam was unappeased by her creation?  He sounds happy, content and excited. Nonetheless, the man degrades, oppresses and rejects the woman in that instance when God confronts them about their transgression! Adam made it seem as if it were God’s fault for creating a damaged women, but read what it says in Genesis 1:31:

“God saw EVERYTHING that HE HAD MADE, and indeed it was VERY GOOD. So there was evening, and there was morning, a sixth day.”

God, who is omniscient, foresaw the treatment men would have towards women and said to Eve, “HE WILL DOMINATE YOU,”  Genesis 3:16. Was this a punishment?  No!  This was a warning! It is not surprising that male chauvinism still exist today when we read the many biblical passages of the maltreatment of men towards women.  This was NOT part of God’s plan for humanity because God is a God of love and to think differently signifies that we defame God’s character and His love.

Today, domestic violence towards women includes human trafficking; ****; domination; control; manipulation; physical, mental, emotional and even spiritual abuse; among other afflictions, but with work correlated towards awareness and making resources available for women we could reduce this problem. Bare in mind that by the power of men, this problem will not cease to exist until Jesus returns to RESTORE ALL THAT SIN HAS DESTROYED.