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Title: Re: Top 10: Who would make the best coaches ?
Post by: thetruth on March 04, 2014, 03:40:31 pm
this is conjecture at best but 2 most likely to go into coaching would be Andy and Ferru. I think they would also make the best coaches.

Federer would also make a great coach but he has way too much money and he is going to be making $40-$50 million a year even in retirement. my guess is that he will go into business.

great thread idea.

Thanks general.  Good choices.   

Granted, it might be some years before they might want to coach...

I think Djokovic and Nadal would be good for coaching kids with their attitude toward the youngsters.  Maybe Tsonga as well.

Ferrer and Murray,  the developing player, with their backgrounds.

I think Wawrinka and Murray would be good for the player who is looking to get into the top 10 or win their first major having both struggled with getting that level.

All around, probably Murray...

Respectfully,
masterclass

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Title: Re: Top 10: Who would make the best coaches ?
Post by: thetruth on March 04, 2014, 03:37:59 pm
Assuming all were available and willing at some point to coach after their careers ended, who among the current top 10 players would make the best coaches in your opinion?  Feel free to give your reasons or make comments for any or all of them, order them as you like, etc.

Edit: I'll give 3 coaching scenarios to help pin this down a bit.

1. Coaching children to develop their basic skills
2. Coaching the developing player (mid to late teen) to get them to ATP level and beyond.
3. Coaching the experienced ATP player who has yet to win a major, or is not a top 10 player, to enable him get him to that level.


1 Nadal, Rafael (ESP):

2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB):

3 Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI):

4 Ferrer, David (ESP):

5 Berdych, Tomas (CZE):

6 Murray, Andy (GBR):

7 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG):

8 Federer, Roger (SUI):

9 Gasquet, Richard (FRA):

10 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA):

Respectfully,
masterclass

I would take Murray and Wawrinka for option 2: helping the experienced player get over the hump.

I pick these two because as a coach they know that talent isn't enough. You need mettle and belief to cross that line. They would also understand the player who, though gifted, may struggle to actualize their desire on court.

I think this would be harder for Nadal and Federer as coaches since they busted the wall down early in their careers. It might be inconceivable to them that a talented player couldn't get over the hump.

Nole would be a similar proposition, except that from the beginning he knew that he would win a major, he just didn't know when. That differentiates him from Rafa and Roger, and at the same time, from the rest of the Top 10.

I'd give an honorable mention to Gasquet also, because he may be able to help that player based on his own experiences. Sort of a those who can't, teach scenario.

He might have the tools to get someone else over the hump, even if he couldn't do it for himself.

Great thread!
Title: Re: Top 10: Who would make the best coaches ?
Post by: Clay Death on March 04, 2014, 01:19:38 pm
quite obviously they are all very bright. it is just a question of who has the patience for it.

the top guns like Rafa and Federer have simply too much money and also too many other interests. I don't think they are going to stand at courtsides sweating over some players.

also there is no end in sight to the money that is coming in for Rafa and Federer. Federer is making $71 million a year now.

Rafa's 9-10 French Opens are worth a cool $1 billion over a lifetime. he is already wealthy beyond belief.


these two will do other things. Rafa will get into golf and poker. he may even try to buy a football club in Europe.
Title: Re: Top 10: Who would make the best coaches ?
Post by: masterclass on March 04, 2014, 01:00:04 pm
this is conjecture at best but 2 most likely to go into coaching would be Andy and Ferru. I think they would also make the best coaches.

Federer would also make a great coach but he has way too much money and he is going to be making $40-$50 million a year even in retirement. my guess is that he will go into business.

great thread idea.

Thanks general.  Good choices.   

Granted, it might be some years before they might want to coach...

I think Djokovic and Nadal would be good for coaching kids with their attitude toward the youngsters.  Maybe Tsonga as well.

Ferrer and Murray,  the developing player, with their backgrounds.

I think Wawrinka and Murray would be good for the player who is looking to get into the top 10 or win their first major having both struggled with getting that level.

All around, probably Murray...

Respectfully,
masterclass
Title: Re: Top 10: Who would make the best coaches ?
Post by: Clay Death on March 04, 2014, 09:50:22 am
how about the former top also?

check this article out. it sounds like Agassi would not mind throwing his hat into the ring down the road.


http://sports.yahoo.com/news/agassi-solve-isner-riddle-no-rush-become-coach-185251522--ten.html
Title: Re: Top 10: Who would make the best coaches ?
Post by: Clay Death on March 04, 2014, 08:39:49 am
this is conjecture at best but 2 most likely to go into coaching would be Andy and Ferru. I think they would also make the best coaches.

Federer would also make a great coach but he has way too much money and he is going to be making $40-$50 million a year even in retirement. my guess is that he will go into business.

great thread idea.
Title: Top 10: Who would make the best coaches ?
Post by: masterclass on March 04, 2014, 06:08:01 am
Assuming all were available and willing at some point to coach after their careers ended, who among the current top 10 players would make the best coaches in your opinion?  Feel free to give your reasons or make comments for any or all of them, order them as you like, etc.

Edit: I'll give 3 coaching scenarios to help pin this down a bit.

1. Coaching children to develop their basic skills
2. Coaching the developing player (mid to late teen) to get them to ATP level and beyond.
3. Coaching the experienced ATP player who has yet to win a major, or is not a top 10 player, to enable him get him to that level.


1 Nadal, Rafael (ESP):

2 Djokovic, Novak (SRB):

3 Wawrinka, Stanislas (SUI):

4 Ferrer, David (ESP):

5 Berdych, Tomas (CZE):

6 Murray, Andy (GBR):

7 Del Potro, Juan Martin (ARG):

8 Federer, Roger (SUI):

9 Gasquet, Richard (FRA):

10 Tsonga, Jo-Wilfried (FRA):

Respectfully,
masterclass