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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #4560 on: November 02, 2014, 03:01:35 pm »

The stuff Nadal used to wear, the pirate pants are a part of the Spanish culture and what most of the players wear in that region of the world. Nike saw it, and decided to use it as a marketing ploy.

It’s OK if you don’t think Nole’s statement is disrespectful. I never said that it was, I said it was hypocritical. He said one thing before he started winning and a different thing when the winning began. What we view as disrespectful is in the eye of the beholder. My opinion differs. Everyone has reasons why they see things in a certain way and I respect that. I don’t think my opinion is any better than yours, but I also don’t think your opinion is any better than mine. I don't see that as a problem because I like differing opinions.

Bouchard? Please, her and Robson were best friends. Once she got Robson’s coach she announced that they were no longer friends; blindsiding Robson. Sounds like a nice girl. I guess I don’t like that particular brand of "honesty,” I don't see it as honesty, but duplicity. The notion of being competitive in order to reach the top doesn’t appeal to me, nor does it garner my respect. I don’t understand why you can’t compete on court and be a human being off it.

For whatever reason Nole thumped his chest, ripped his shirt, and bellowed like an idiot (IMO) is his perogative, but he also opened himself up to criticism and I choose to criticize him for it. However, I'm not mad at people who see it differently from. Freedom of expression and all. Anyway, I'm glad he did it because it was a turnoff to me and earned him the nicknames of DeJerk, and Djerkovic.

Don’t tell you? Fine, then don’t tell me about nationalism and rabid fanboyism, or how I should think. I am just as strong willed as you and I am not about to let anyone give me an opinion. Our thoughts are free and we are free to express them. Why do you get to express your opinions and chastise others and then get testy when someone responds to your behavior? 

Fans who hate a player for any reason have a mental problem. Hate is too strong to waste on a complete stranger. The trick is to not attach that to other fans based on your own mindset. Tennis is a sport and as such there will be wins and losses. Anyone who doesn’t understand that needs help.

“If you are a big fan of Andy, as you say, then you would have supported Nole to win Paris, because Nole winning this tournament has the least negative affect on Andy's ranking that is the most crucial aspect of Andy's career right now. But I am sure both you and herc (as he too says he's a Murray fan) would want Nole to lose the tournament and I am fairly sure it has nothing to do with Nole's celebrations. When we are faced with the real truth, we often don't like it or look past it and that's the truth.”


This is total BS! I don’t care who wins the tournament. Two of my favorite players are Rafa and Murray. Once they’re out of the tournament I no longer have any dogs in the fight. Why would I care if Nole won it or not? He’s not one of my favorites. He’s in the same category as Kei, Milos, and anyone else left. I don’t think about the impact of rankings, points, or any of that stuff as it pertains to players. I’m happy for whoever wins the tournament, because they earned it. Why should I care? What’s in it for me? Seriously? Whoever wins the tournament, ends up #1, wins the next major has zero effect on my life. I wish I would be sitting around caring about stats that I cannot control. That is ludicrous, and if I say I’m a fan of Andy’s; then I am. I don’t have to please or appease anyone. I may not be the type of fan that you are, because outside of being able to enjoy a competitive match for me, it all ends there.

But why do you want to decide things for Nole as to how he should be before and after? How he should behave after a win? Why must everything be to your liking? Who are you to him? It's not a crime if he feels differently about things now? It's not illegal to celebrate the way he wants to celebrate? You don't want to please anyone but then why should anyone  please you? It's his life and HE gets to decide how he is going to interact with others. And the way he sees it fit. And I am not a fan of Bouchard by any means but I am not holding that against her. That was to merely show you a point. You can continue to dislike Nole for whatever reason but you can't question his way of doing things, especially when it's doing no harm to others. That's the objective here not to mention, the main point.

I wish though things were that simple with you but unfortunately, they are not. You do care who won Paris because you did express your feelings about it on the Paris thread. Here's what you wrote: "Watching the end of the Ferrer/Nishikori match and hoping that Kei pulls it out. He'll give Novak more to think about, whereas Ferrer will fold at the sight of most players with a #1 next to their name. Come Kei!!!". You obviously cared enough to post that. It's no hidden gem as to who you wanted to win in the end and for whatever reasons. 

All those things I've highlighted to show you a point that you truly dislike Nole (and it has very little to do with his celebration) because you went on to even post some really stupid nicknames perhaps given by fans (Nadal fans I bet) who too hate him. And then quite ironically you state that fans who hate a player for no reason has a mental problem. Now who's hating who? All I see is you hating on Nole in the name of his celebrations. I brought Nadal up to give you a counter point. I brought Nadal's choice of wardrobe up for the same reason. I had no other intention.  It's a put off yes, but in the end, I don't care - I don't talk about it on a regular basis (or ever) nor do I have any genuine problems with his way of celebrations. As to nicknames, are you completely oblivious to the fact that Nadal too have notorious nicknames given by his naysayers and a series of Nadal's own questionable doings have opened up the door for criticism to many as well? Yes, you are both entitled if you must call players by stupid names if it makes you happy, but this then becomes children's playground - a tit for tat game - with all the childish name callings.

Anyway, I grew up hearing one thing and that is, women can't let an argument go and they really and truly want to win all arguments, because they so desperately want to be right and they love to have the last words. And I never wanted to be that woman so this is my last post on this but you have the floor. You are free to post whatever you like and wherever you like but on this matter, I am going to tune you out because otherwise this will continue, so I want to wise up and leave things at that. And whether you like Nole or not makes no difference in my life either; in fact, in sports it's quite legitimate but that doesn't mean I am going to buy everything I see or read that's on the superficial level.

 

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