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Quantum Physics and Mechanics - A Paradigm Shift
« on: November 11, 2013, 06:40:03 pm »
That's right. :p

But it's mostly for me. I'd probably keep information here but I'll be interested in a conversation as well if you are interested too. This is a subject I was born for but unfortunately, the realization came a bit later. But still, I try to listen some of the great physicists in the world, read their material, books etc. Life would be such a pointless adventure if not explored at all.

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Re: Quantum Physics and Mechanics - The God of Science
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2013, 05:06:51 pm »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr3IK0EryqM

This are dogs that knows when their owner is on his way home.
Rupert sheldrake started with this experiment.

Another topic I find really interesting is metaphorphosis.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Dm8-OpO9oQ


Did you see the movie what the bleep do we know?

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Re: Quantum Physics and Mechanics - The God of Science
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2013, 06:56:08 pm »
You know, I did see what the bleep do we know a couple of times. Dr. Amit Goswami, who's workshop I am attending right now (youtube), was one of the main actors if you remember a short dark guy talking about quantum physics there a few times.

I'll check out your links later when I am in more of a quiet mood. I need to pay attention to those things. And thanks!

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Re: Quantum Physics and Mechanics - The God of Science
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2013, 07:34:36 pm »
Hi Embla, I watched the dog one where she can telepathically sense when her owner will be home. I know that some animals are intuitive but I believe this has a lot more to do with quantum entanglement. For example, this dog won't be able to sense when his or her boss will be home until the dog gets to spend some time with the owner. That's when the bond happens or the entanglement starts. This is a quantum phenomenon btw and has been experimented on different things many times.

Also, dogs as well as pigeons have about 5% to 7% awareness so they are definitely aware of more things than we know. Human beings have about 50/60% awareness. I don't think however murders or serial killers, as in people who have no remorse have more 10% awareness - even that I doubt. Awareness doesn't only mean being aware of your own existence and your surroundings, but it also means being aware of subtle values like the truth, meaning, beauty, love, justice, innocence, compassion, empathy and many more other values. It's obviously more mental and has everything to do with consciousness.

As to your 2nd video, I watched about 20 minutes of it - will finish it later. It was very interesting. I was not aware of this field which is weird because I am very much aware of the higgs field which is the latest discovery in physics. 

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Re: Quantum Physics and Mechanics - The God of Science
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2013, 09:23:33 pm »
Interesting stuff.  I think we underestimate ourselves sometimes (and probably the rest of the Animal Kingdom).   We get warning signs all the time... I guess we call it intuition.  Even little things where Sometimes you'll sense somebody is looking at you and you'll turn around and they are.  You'll also get a bad vibe about a situation where your sixth sense kicks in and know you're in danger.

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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2013, 07:12:33 pm »
Of course, we underestimate ourselves and heavily so. We just need to stop paying attention to the materialistic science and pay much more attention to our own experiences, our instincts, our creativity etc. They will tell you how much more we are and how this Universe we live in is beneficially inclined for us.  And things don't need to only happen in your waking life, because even in dreams we get warnings that typically come in metaphor. People like Edgar Cayce. Carl Jung had done extensive researches on dreams and it's very eye opening for people who are interested in real learning. I've had one too many precognitive dreams that had either warnings or some other messages. All you need is to start paying attention to your experience, your instincts etc. As I've said earlier, awareness doesn't only mean being aware of your own self and needs but so much more. One can only imagine how aware the likes of Buddha, Jesus, Krishna, Gandhi etc. were. They knew what we still don't know because we are still so primitive.

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Re: Quantum Physics and Mechanics - The God of Science
« Reply #6 on: November 21, 2013, 11:52:09 am »
Excellent posts from you, Britbox, and Embla

I have to admit to ignorance about these fields, but have always been drawn to them. I just wasn't aware that they existed and had a name. '

I so believe in intuition and our primitive state. Alas, I have always been alone in my quest for more light, truth, and enlightenment.

Most, no all, of my friends except one, are trapped in the material world and consider me a bit of an oddball, I'm sure. In order to communicate I have to go to their level because when I talk about things such as this I am met with silence.

I will keep track of the things you all have discussed and look into it further.

This place is really awesome.

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« Reply #7 on: November 23, 2013, 01:56:17 pm »
I finished one of my online workshops last night (it was though part 1 of 2), and towards the end of it, quite incidentally, the Quantum Physicist brings up the Morphogenetic field as he refers especially to Rupert Sheldrake. So in simpler term, as I understand it, when consciousness makes the body, it takes advantage of the blueprint it had created first to make the physical organs.

It's something like architecture which in theory is a concept first that resides in a person's mind, but then the architect makes a blueprint of the product and goes from there. There are 7 major organs in a human physical body (brain, heart, lungs, stomach, liver, kidneys and intestines etc.) as we know, and so each organ has a morphogenetic field or a blueprint of it if you will. And the vital body (contains energy only) of a human body carries the energy and helps it flow through to all the major organs. 

When a person blocks this vital energy that was supposed to flow through to, say, heart by grieving (let's say someone she loved suddenly dies and she now thinks "I'll never love anyone again"), she is most likely to develop heart diseases. The idea is that, since there's a blueprint to all these major organs, one can detect very early on the blockage the person has created for herself and prevent any further damages. Also, one can see, how everything begins in the mind first as thoughts tend to control the flows of energies and blockages as well; therefore, one can also draw conclusion that everything begins in the mind first.

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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2013, 02:09:05 pm »
Excellent posts from you, Britbox, and Embla

I have to admit to ignorance about these fields, but have always been drawn to them. I just wasn't aware that they existed and had a name. '

I so believe in intuition and our primitive state. Alas, I have always been alone in my quest for more light, truth, and enlightenment.

Most, no all, of my friends except one, are trapped in the material world and consider me a bit of an oddball, I'm sure. In order to communicate I have to go to their level because when I talk about things such as this I am met with silence.

I will keep track of the things you all have discussed and look into it further.

This place is really awesome.

All my life I am making compromising by going to their level as you so succinctly put it but unfortunately, most people subscribe to mainstream science, religion, entertainment, thoughts etc. and are very reluctant to ask the bigger questions let alone look into it. They are just unfamiliar with such concepts and feel uncomfortable when anyone brings it up. That's why I almost never enjoy being with people all that much, because while I can see where they are coming from, they can hardly seen mine. It is so easy to indulge ourselves into pleasure that anything beyond it feels like too much work, so they avoid it - que sera sera. But as I see it, life is so boring when there's only pleasure. Suffering keeps people grounded but more importantly, that's when people really get to see who they truly are and what they can become.

Am glad you are enjoying it.

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« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2013, 02:34:40 pm »
Another phenomenon is the 'discontinuous jump' in quantum physics. It's a metaphor. What it means is that, in the sub-automic level, sometimes an electron makes a jump from one orbit to another without using the intervening space. What does that mean on the emerging level that we see later? It means, creativity. Creativity happens because of this jump. In the Newtonian law, everything is continuous therefore, every thought is conditioned by its previous thought - a chain of thoughts if you will. But when an electron makes this jump, it does not follow any previous conditions or chain of thoughts.  It then makes completely a new thought and creates something new. That's why the foundation of creativity is this discontinuous jump that is free of any previous conditions. This is also the main foundation of free will or this is where the true free will lies. All others are conditioned however, we do have choices to choose from. So one can't say you are absolutely conditioned and/or that we live in a determined world. Because of the choices we face every single time and we do choose differently because of our different upbringings and perspectives in life, it eliminates the concept of 'determined world'. For example, when you toss a coin, you don't know if you will get the heads or the tails even when there are only two alternatives. Therefore, the result is completely unknown. Life however offers more than just two alternatives - at least most times. Even so, you can see how we do not live in the determined world but a materialist will always try to convince you otherwise, even when it comes with all sorts of dogmas and paradoxes which basically makes it a pseudoscience. In other words, if there's a flaw in a theory, then that's a paradox and completely against what we call science. 

This 'discontinuous jump' is now a fact and a very well established phenomenon in quantum physics.

The Big Bang, btw, is still a theory but it is one of the most established theories simply because there's enough data to back it up but still, there are some paradoxes that still makes it a theory and not a fact. And of course, a theory has to exist first which will be proven as a fact later through experiments and supporting data, or will be dismissed if it can't be experimented or doesn't have enough data to prove it otherwise.

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« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2013, 10:35:43 pm »

All my life I am making compromising by going to their level as you so succinctly put it but unfortunately, most people subscribe to mainstream science, religion, entertainment, thoughts etc. and are very reluctant to ask the bigger questions let alone look into it. They are just unfamiliar with such concepts and feel uncomfortable when anyone brings it up. That's why I almost never enjoy being with people all that much, because while I can see where they are coming from, they can hardly seen mine. It is so easy to indulge ourselves into pleasure that anything beyond it feels like too much work, so they avoid it - que sera sera. But as I see it, life is so boring when there's only pleasure. Suffering keeps people grounded but more importantly, that's when people really get to see who they truly are and what they can become.

Am glad you are enjoying it.

I am enjoying it. I totally needed this place. I find myself so frustrated by people who believe only in what they've been told and original thoughts are foreign, even scary, to them.

There's so much I don't know. So much I want to know, so many things I have wondered about, but didn't know where to begin.

Dreams are one area and I had no idea about quantum physics so this is a new dimension for me.

I won't have much to contribute as I am dealing with a blank slate, so I will listen and learn for now.

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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2013, 08:03:35 pm »

I am enjoying it. I totally needed this place. I find myself so frustrated by people who believe only in what they've been told and original thoughts are foreign, even scary, to them.

There's so much I don't know. So much I want to know, so many things I have wondered about, but didn't know where to begin.

Dreams are one area and I had no idea about quantum physics so this is a new dimension for me.

I won't have much to contribute as I am dealing with a blank slate, so I will listen and learn for now.

If there is God and I believe there is, then I am sure he wouldn't mind it at all if we question our existence, because let's face it, given all the mystery it's only natural that we would question everything. I am sure God is not so insecure about its own identity but most importantly, I am sure there's a reason behind everything because of the way things are. And it's our duty to find that out or else what's the point of any of it at all. 

But when people avoid the whole thing, I take it, it might just be fear for some people who don't want to ask questions, or it might just be sheer laziness that holds people off from asking the bigger questions or they are just so self-centered and take things for granted so much that they simply don't care. And of course, then there are people who think everything is here by chance even though they have no evidence to prove it.

Personally I think every person needs to ask these questions and go from there, who are we? Where do we come from? Why are we here or what is the purpose of our life? Where do we go from here?

Quantum Physics and Mechanics are your new science though it's got to be now at least 100 years old. It was first introduced by Max Planck on the big scale around 1920s if I am not mistaken, who also happened to be Einstein's mentor back then. There has been a number of discoveries since then and I've touched a couple of them so far - Quantum Entanglement and the Discontinuous Jump or Discontinuity. The biggest discovery has got to be the non-local consciousness which is now the biggest study in Quantum Physics. I'll talk about it a bit as well.

Quantum Physics is the theoretical side of things whereas Quantum Mechanics is the side where these theories are experimented and then verified. 

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2013, 08:16:44 pm »
That little voice inside our head is really not our consciousness. Turn off that little voice inside your head, the voice of reason, that tries to rationalize things. It’s actually the passive observer that is tied with our human ego, a condition that comes with as soon as we are born. It is the voice of the ego self and not a part of who we truly are. If you want the deeper truth then you must separate the ego self from your true self and you can do it through meditation (as well as prayers if you do pray) – little by little – gaining confidence and having control over this ego self. You can do it.

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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2013, 09:56:40 pm »
That little voice inside our head is really not our consciousness. Turn off that little voice inside your head, the voice of reason, that tries to rationalize things. It’s actually the passive observer that is tied with our human ego, a condition that comes with as soon as we are born. It is the voice of the ego self and not a part of who we truly are. If you want the deeper truth then you must separate the ego self from your true self and you can do it through meditation (as well as prayers if you do pray) – little by little – gaining confidence and having control over this ego self. You can do it.

Very interesting. I am a Christian, but I think I understand what you are saying.

As a Christian I would describe it in different terms.

The voice you call the voice of rationalization I call the soul. The soul is the ego. It's what we feel like doing and it gets us in trouble many times. You're right. We don't want to listen to that voice because it pleases our flesh, but not our essence, or who we really are.

And we must go deeper, through meditation or prayer.

I understand what you're saying. I just had to make it understandable from my own POW. Having done that I now understand your post in its totality.

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« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2013, 07:25:49 pm »
Soul is not the ego. Not initially anyway. Soul is the Self that remains the same no matter what you go through in life. It is the 'I' if you will. Ego is the false self that goes through many different phases only to merge to the original Self. It is the 'Me'. For example, when a child is born, it has no ego but just the Self. That's why it is so adorable and innocent because it has not developed a false self yet. But as it grows up it continues to acquire the false self. The journey is to find the Self and eventually make the tradition to it. The ego is important because through this journey you learn and come to realize who you truly are.

I will explain more as to what I know and see if you can relate to it. It's really best to look at things from a point where you can disassociate yourself from any pre-existing belief systems. That's the best way to learn. You can use  all others such as religion, science, you personal life experiences etc. as a reference point.

 

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