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By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you'll become happy; if you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
-Socrates

By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you'll become happy; if you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
-Socrates

Well said, Socrates - you wise soul!  
Thanks for sharing these quotes, Emma!

Socrates teaching was quite radical and advanced for the people in his time hence the authority felt the need to remove him altogether from the picture. He was given hemlock based poison to drink and that's when he made this great remark, "The hour of departure has arrived, and we go our separate ways, I to die, and you to live. Which of these two is better only God knows."

Notice how he mentions just God but not Gods though one of the accusations against him was that he introduced new deities and did not acknowledge the old ones. I thought that was interesting.

Your God Is Not God - by Krisnamurti

A man who believes in God can never find God. If you are open to reality, there can be no belief in reality. If you are open to the unknown, there can be no belief in it. After all, belief is a form of self-protection, and only a petty mind can believe in God. Look at the belief of the aviators during the war who said God was their companion as they were dropping bombs! So you believe in God when you kill, when you are exploiting people. You worship God and go on ruthlessly extorting money, supporting the army; yet you say you believe in mercy, compassion, kindliness. As long as belief exists, there can never be the unknown; you cannot think about the unknown, thought cannot measure it. The mind is the product of the past, it is the result of yesterday, and can such a mind be open to the unknown? It can only project an image, but that projection is not real; so your god is not God, it is an image of your own making, an image of your own gratification. There can be reality only when the mind understands the total process of itself and comes to an end. When the mind is completely empty-only then is it capable of receiving the unknown. The mind is not purged until it understands the content of relationship -its relationship with property, with people until it has established the right relationship with everything. Until it understands the whole process of conflict in relationship, the mind cannot be free. Only when the mind is wholly silent, completely inactive, not projecting, when it is not seeking and is utterly still -only then that which is eternal and timeless comes into being.

Quote from: propstoart on December 14, 2013, 10:14:30 am

Quote from: Emma on December 14, 2013, 09:20:58 am

By all means, marry. If you get a good wife, you'll become happy; if you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
-Socrates

Well said, Socrates - you wise soul!  
Thanks for sharing these quotes, Emma!

Hola my dearest Propstoart. It is so good to see you here. I hope all's well with you and you are dandy.

See, I've always found Socrates to be slightly naughty as well because of the comments he had made re: marriage but if you look into his life, you'll see he had reasons for those comments. It turns out, his wife would send him off to do some groceries, but Socrates - the philosopher that he was, would often find himself in a group of people telling them to ask the bigger questions in life and then he'd go on to lecture about those questions and their possible answers. And all this would make him forget why he was out on the road in the first place. So as a result, he would always find his wife standing at the door with a broomstick giving him very cold and long looks, because sure enough, once again, Socrates had forgotten to do the groceries. But in retrospect, Socrates after all, wasn't he marrying kind and neither him nor his wife, who btw thought he was quite incompetent when it came to household stuff, realized that. It makes me sad because all my life I have looked for a guy like him and all I can find is one hard materialist after another, alas. I would have worshiped Socrates had he been my husband! heck, he didn't have to even marry me. lol. 

Hey, Emma! Yep, I'm enjoying learning about the great Socrates and his marital woes!! : )
I must admit, it feels good to chat about such deep stuff, after a week of mind-numbingly uninspiring work.

I got a quote for you by Maya Angelou:

“Music was my refuge. I could crawl into the space between the notes and curl my back to loneliness.”

Opinion is the medium between knowledge and ignorance.- Plato

I say there is no darkness but ignorance. - William Shakespeare

Ignorance, the root and stem of all evil. -Plato

Plato there completely grasped it. There's no evil or darkness in the sense people tend to think about it. Just like darkness is the absence of light - evil is the lack of awareness. You don't fight darkness with light; you just bring light into darkness. Therefore, you make it aware.

And good or light consists of awareness, love, truth, justice, beauty, innocence, understanding etc. Darkness or evil is the absence of all these archetype values. This Universe purposefully consists of good and evil and your free will is the access to each of this. In other words, you get to choose. And you become what you choose, so choose carefully my friends.

"It takes considerable knowledge just to realize the extent of your own ignorance."
Thomas Sowell