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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1740 on: January 19, 2014, 02:38:13 am »
She played great.

Credit where credit is due.

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« Reply #1741 on: January 19, 2014, 07:49:34 am »
affirmative. she returned well and put herself in a position to battle for the points.

rest of her game just flowed from there.

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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1742 on: January 19, 2014, 08:20:00 am »
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« Reply #1743 on: January 19, 2014, 09:49:08 am »

I love the Spaniards too, and although it may appear that way, it's not based on them being Spanish. I've always liked the Spanish players, because to me, most of them have heart and flair, whereas the French only have flair. I like some of the French players too, but find they don't have the mental tenacity that attracts me. I like Paire, loved Grosjean and Clement, but Monfils and Tsonga are too showy for me.

But, Ferrero, Corettja, Costa, and Arantxa were some of my faves before Rafa emerged on the tour. I like the way they go about their work without trying to draw attention to themselves. It's like the tennis is primary, not fame or image.

I also enjoy watching Feliciano, Verdasco, and some others whose names escape me. They just don't win as much so there's not much to talk about with them. Moya didn't appeal to me though. He was OK, but kind of bland IMO. 

Pete, Serena, and Lindsay are the only American players that I like. I'm not fond of their brash, cocky ways. I couldn't stand Agassi, OMG!

I also tend to like the Argentinians, not del Po though. He's OK, but he doesn't make me feel anything, even when he's playing his best. I like Monaco, Canas,

It's a contradiction when you say "it's not based on them being Spanish. I've always liked the Spanish players". If you replace the word "Spanish" with "American" then the statement is no longer true, for example. So clearly it's the notion of the 'country' that is attached to it is making all the difference. And I understand your point about these Spanish players having a 'flair' but that is in fact a matter of perspective and a personal preference. Because I, on the other hand, find them a bit too patriotic to the point I find them obnoxious, but my feeling is not as intense or intense at all. Also, every person is different than the next person so I don't think they can, as a whole, offer something unique and if they do, then it's almost always something negative.

Because I am posting for a long time, I know a lot of posters, I know for a fact that a lot of them who were big supporters of the Spanish armada back then, are the very fans who are supporting all the current Spanish players including Rafa. So I didn't put it right when I said in my initial post that, because they like Rafa, they also like all other players from Spain. What I meant to say that, there's a certain group of posters who happen to like all the Spanish players regardless (reason why they like Rafa in the first place) even when tennis the game itself represents something that is based on individual talent. I don't have a problem with it but it's something I have observed over the years. Personally I only care for individual talent.

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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1744 on: January 19, 2014, 09:50:09 am »
Well, gotta run now as I have some cooking to do but will address some other posts after I am all done. :D

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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1745 on: January 19, 2014, 01:21:37 pm »
big day in Melbourne.


I can't wait to see the action unfold.

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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1746 on: January 19, 2014, 04:27:17 pm »
herc, who are you pulling for in the Tsonga vs Federer match tonight? Given that it's the first match in RL I don't think I'll be able to watch it at all. Also, I took a nap this afternoon so that I can stay up for Andy's match, so that makes it even less likely. I just wanted to see how they are playing and their current level of tennis, it helps me assess the next match from a Murray fan perspective.

Andy likes to play both of them but he may still have something mental against Federer, so perhaps Tsonga would be his ideal next match opponent assuming he'll get past Robert. I'll leave it to fate for now.

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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1747 on: January 19, 2014, 04:29:19 pm »
affirmative. she returned well and put herself in a position to battle for the points.

rest of her game just flowed from there.

You said Bouchard is world of talent so who will you be pulling for in this match?

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« Reply #1748 on: January 19, 2014, 05:04:34 pm »

I do like Feli, and while I think he's talented, he's not much of a tactician. As far as talent, I would take Verdasco over Feli, another one who can't seem to put it all together. But, I definitely don't think either are more talented than Nadal. Nadal is special, so special. Never been another player that plays like him. He's inimitable. To me, that's talent.

I guess I'm bored of the knock offs. I wanted to see something new and original and that's what I get with Nadal.

TBH, I don't watch Dmitrov unless he's playing one of the Big 4, so I was surprised to see him perform this way. I watched him a bit when he first started getting noticed and so this behavior seemed foreign to me.

Didn't recognize the Sharapova link, but it's not a good look for me.

Everyone is talented on the pro tour. It's just a matter of question to what degree or to what extent. But first we need to identify what talent is.

Talent is something inherited. Something one is born with. Something that comes naturally to you. That's talent. Anything else is learned. So which talent are we talking about? Learned or inherited one?

For example, Andy doesn't have a forehand that is natural to him. In other words, it doesn't come naturally to him. What he has now is learned. On the other hand, Nadal's forehand is born with. It comes very easy to him. He doesn't need to do anything special to improve it.

Now that's the technical aspects of talent. Then there's the physical aspect such as speed and movement. Who's natural in this instance?

Then there's the mental aspects of talent. Who's mentally very tough especially in clutch moments? Who thrives on it? Who sees it as an opportunity rather than trouble? What's the difference between this person who thrives on it and the person who tends to fold?

Pure technical talent alone won't get any player that far. One must have discipline, dedication and the hunger for it. Someone who's physically fit, moves like a cat and in lightspeed. Someone who can mentally stay calm under extreme situations. By that I don't only mean the game itself, but the conditions as well. Someone who is comfortable at the net or at the baseline. Someone who possess more than one weapon that comes very naturally to them and can switch to several gears when situation requires it. Who can pull it through week in week out without the drop of the level - in other words, who's game, physical aspects of things and mentality is most consistent that comes very naturally to them without much work.

Anything else is learned - nothing wrong with it either but that also means it's their weakness that he/she is trying to improve. Talent is strength. Anything learned is essentially regarded as a weakness.

While Murray doesn't have a natural forehand, you can see from the list that he does have plenty other talent that comes very naturally to him. What separates him from Nadal (right now anyway) is that, Murray is not as talented mentally as Nadal. But when it comes to technicality and physicality, Murray is more talented than Nadal because he is versatile and offers more than Nadal.

Federer, for example, while far more talented than Nadal, Nadal trumps him in the mental department. The mental strength, the fact that he's strong and dedicated, is a talent itself and it far exceeds whatever Federer can offer.

So when I was talking about Feli, I meant in terms of technicality. Then I went on to state in my post that Nadal is however mentally very strong and that separates the two simply because, Nadal's mental ability far exceeds Feli's tennis abilities or anyone's of the current era - perhaps only Nole comes close or even surpass him.

Like Federer, Murray is very weak in the mental department and that's why he needed to hire Lendl. It is his weakness. I know the Brits have their excuses when it comes to Andy, but had Sampras were to come from the same country, he wouldn't have cared about any of this nonsense. He would have gone about his usual way and established his superiority over all others, because he was incredibly talented as all his abilities or talents were inborn. He was almost flawless.

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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1749 on: January 19, 2014, 05:34:12 pm »
andy has the afternoon match as well. I cant see andy having any problems with stehpane robert of france.


dimtrov plays roberto bautista agut. this one should be interesting too. this is the guy who managed to derail del potro.

Andy's playing a lucky loser so probably not much trouble. Andy should keep it short and simple. That will be the key going forward since his path is going  to get tougher and tougher from this point on. That's why it is unwise or even thoughtless to say (I don't mean you but just read in some other boards) that a draw is not 'tough' simply based on one's early rounds. As long one part of the draws is tough - be it the early rounds or the later rounds - it should be considered a tough draw; that is, if it's going to pan out that way like it is happening right now.

A weak draw happens not when the draws come out but when all the potential opponents go out before meeting with that person. In other word, when one specific player (it could happen to anyone be it Nole or Nadal or Andy etc.) doesn't face anyone worthy therefore makes the final of a Slam. If Andy went on to beat Tsonga/Federer, Nadal and then Nole, would people still say he had it easy? Albeit not. That would be a stupid opinion that is mostly based on hatred. 

Nadal's draw is still somewhat tough if he goes through Murray and then Nole, but Murray is still a question mark however. And that will leave only Nole in the picture. But Nole has first Wawrinka and then Berdych/Ferrer and later whoever from the top half to deal with. So it's not by any means easy just because he makes it look easy. Frankly, just like there's no 'tough' draw for Nadal when it comes to RG as he'd probably beat all of them 99% of the time, for similar reason, you can't give Nole a tough draw, since there are only 1 o2 two people at best who can give him trouble on hard. And they are not going to meet until the end of the tournament. So in essence, it's a moot point. In fact, he's the only player last year who made 3 Slam finals and 1 semi at RG, so clearly it is very hard to beat him in early rounds. But if you want him to be simply tired then I am not sure how worthy that title would be. It is what it is however.

But let's see if Wawrinka can push him tomorrow.

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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1750 on: January 19, 2014, 05:35:15 pm »
I hope Dimitov gets past Agut tonight but he'll fold against Nadal given that it will be his first GS qtr so he'll be overwhelmed by the situation.

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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1751 on: January 19, 2014, 05:39:51 pm »
I am out and about at the moment.


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Emma are you going to try to catch the Andy Murray match?

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« Reply #1752 on: January 19, 2014, 05:54:38 pm »
Hola herc, yes more than likely though our coverage doesn't start until 10pm tonight but I am sure they are not going to show it on TV - maybe a couple of games here and there.

Some Murray fans seem to be disturbed by the fact that he is put on Hisense again but who really cares. I don't think it makes any difference and besides, he's playing a lucky loser for goodness' sake. From qtr final on, it's all going to be on RL anyway.

And Federer, Nadal and Nole  do tend to draw bigger crowd so that's another factor that one needs to be taken into consideration. Andy will have to earn his draw too. And he will so let's not make all this fuss over little things. They are not important. What's important is that Andy wins his match tonight. Let's focus on that.

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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1753 on: January 19, 2014, 06:40:39 pm »
I would like to congratulate lady TT for a new milestone:

she blasted right past 500 posts at Camelot.


congrats lady TT. you rock.



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Congratulations TT! That's pretty awesome. :)

Though we have miles to go before we catch herc!  :P 

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Re: Emma's Cafe
« Reply #1754 on: January 19, 2014, 07:00:56 pm »
Hola herc, yes more than likely though our coverage doesn't start until 10pm tonight but I am sure they are not going to show it on TV - maybe a couple of games here and there.

Some Murray fans seem to be disturbed by the fact that he is put on Hisense again but who really cares. I don't think it makes any difference and besides, he's playing a lucky loser for goodness' sake. From qtr final on, it's all going to be on RL anyway.

And Federer, Nadal and Nole  do tend to draw bigger crowd so that's another factor that one needs to be taken into consideration. Andy will have to earn his draw too. And he will so let's not make all this fuss over little things. They are not important. What's important is that Andy wins his match tonight. Let's focus on that.



well I am finally home.


now its time for a drink and check the news and stuff.


I think andy, nadal, and tsonga are the winners tonight.


Federer is playing well but now he is up against a tough customer. it is going to take a little more time for Federer to get fully acclimated to bigger racquet.

I think they play 4-5 sets and Tsonga manages to get by.

 

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