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Re: Live ATP Rankings
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2013, 06:51:32 am »
I cant really think of any others. perhaps there is somebody in the pipeline in spain.

Probably mean Carreno Busta here. Another great perspective for the tour, honestly.

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« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2013, 11:11:49 am »
affirmative general. he is another one who shows some potential.

we should throw another name into the mix: dimitrov.


dimitrov needs to take his fitness to the next level and he also needs to start playing more smaller clay events. that will take him to where he wants to go.

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« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2013, 11:25:14 am »
jerzy, kyrgios, and dimitrov are potential top 10 players.
they have the talent.




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« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2013, 09:11:44 pm »
this teen is being called a prodigy:


http://www.sportinglife.com/tennis/news/article/553/8975780/tipsarevic-upset-by-russian-teen


hard to believe that a kid ranked 808th in the world can derail a top talent like tipsy.

the kid blasted 14 aces in this match.

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« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2013, 11:40:20 pm »
One thing though. The guy in the picture in that article of yours, CD... that's not Khachanov. ;D

http://www.atpworldtour.com/News/Tennis/2013/10/42/Moscow-Wednesday-Seppi-Tipsarevic.aspx

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« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2013, 06:11:06 am »
you are so right general.

I wonder how they got that wrong.

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« Reply #21 on: October 17, 2013, 05:24:50 pm »
this kid is 6 foot 6.

some say that he could be top 20 by the end of 2015:




At a time when there are 29 players over 30 years of age in the Top 100 in the Emirates ATP Rankings, it is refreshing to witness a teenager making headlines on the ATP World Tour.

Karen Khachanov (pronounced "Karen Hachanoff") only left high school in May this year. But aged 17 and 6’6”, the Russian is already being touted as a star of the future.

Former World No. 1 Yevgeny Kafelnikov, who now works as a Kremlin Cup by Bank of Moscow tournament manager, told ATPWorldTour.com, “He will be Top 20 [in the Emirates ATP Rankings] by end of 2015, and that’s my prediction.”

This week, Khachanov has beaten Albert Ramos and Janko Tipsarevic en route to the Moscow quarter-finals. It is just his second ATP World Tour tournament and the third senior-level event of his career.

The last 17 year old to reach the last eight of an ATP World Tour event was Kei Nishikori in July 2007 at Indianapolis.

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« Reply #22 on: October 18, 2013, 01:12:05 am »
Interesting stuff there general.

One thing on the pronunciation though. Karen the male name is not pronounced in the same manner as Karen the female name:

Karen (female) /ˈkærən
Karen (male) / KARR-ən

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« Reply #23 on: October 18, 2013, 09:03:56 am »
we missed this tennis prodigy.


he is really going to be something if what they say is right.

he came out of the shadows to showcase his talents. a great coach and a lot of hard work should get him to where he wants to go.

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« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2013, 08:07:01 am »
So is Rafa going to get a zero point penalty and/or fine for withdrawing from Basel and not traveling there for the promotional activities requirement? 

According to the rulebook (Section VIII D.):

   "Players shall not have the ranking penalty assessed if they complete the requirements for “promotional activities”; are out of competition for 30 days; or the withdrawal complied with the requirements for an on-site withdrawal. Players may appeal withdrawal penalties to a Tribunal who will determine whether the penalties are affirmed or set aside."

So, he could theoretically avoid that penalty by also withdrawing from Paris and WTF and submitting a note from the doctor, i.e. per the OOC 30 day+ consecutive rule?   Though I doubt he would miss the WTF just to avoid the penalty.

Another loophole is the vague "withdrawal complied with the requirements of an on-site withdrawal", whatever that means.

Finally, he can appeal for discretionary review before a tribunal, which is again pretty vague and I don't think it is transparent, though I could be wrong.  Is there somewhere where these decisions are publicly published?  I don't know.  It seems that we only know the end result once the rankings have been published for a period of time.

So theoretically, he could submit a doctors note to the tribunal that said he needed complete rest, no travel, no activity for a week or 10 days, and the tribunal could affirm it or set it aside.


I'm going to guess he will not get fined, but may get the 0 point penalty...

But anyway, this process is a thorn in the side of automated rankings... :)
Manual adjustment seems a necessary evil.

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Re: Live ATP Rankings
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2013, 02:05:53 pm »
There has been a lot of chatter lately on this. Nadal will 95% get a penalty for this withdrawal, but about 80% of the penalties ever given have been lifted after 1 or 2 weeks (Haas' after 6 months) due to a player appeal. This is one of the worst rules ATP have deemed worthy to be in the rulebook so it's impossible to anticipate with 100% accuracy if the year end rankings will feature Nadal with a penalty or not.

 

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