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masterclass · « **Reply #2535 on:** June 21, 2015, 02:29:46 pm »

Quote from: Clay Death on June 20, 2015, 07:46:24 pm

Federer should be able to destroy seppi tomorrow.

will somebody go to MTF and fire up my roger Federer thread?

Federer is working hard and paying the dues on the practice and fitness front.

he declared just 3 days ago that he was in top form.

he is putting in the long, hard yards required on the fitness front.

and all the while having 4 kids and a wife at home.

Well general, not quite a destruction, but he took it in straight sets with a tiebreaker set in the 1st, where he won the tiebreaker 7-1.
Still, title #86 and a record 8th Halle title are in the bag. Congrats to him, and condolences to Seppi who did benefit a bit from retirements in the QF and SF to the perennial walking wounded Monfils and Nishikori.

The 100 title thread is seeing action again... people are starting to get really edgy with only 14 to go. A lot of haters saying Federer is vulturing, beating up on weak fields, etc. Others are saying he'll never do it because he will retire next year (how do they know?). Heck the guy is in his 34th year and still going strong at #2 and is taking in more endorsement money ($58M) than anyone in in all sports and 5th overall when adding earnings. Why should he stop unless he injures himself badly?

#1Floyd Mayweather $300M|#2Manny Pacquiao $160M|#3Cristiano Ronaldo $80M|#4 Lionel Messi $74.8 M|

#5 Roger Federer $67M

#6 LeBron James $64.8 M | #7 Kevin Durant $54.1 M | #8 Phil Mickelson $50.8 M | #9 Tiger Woods $50.6 M |

#10 Kobe Bryant $50M

Respectfully,
masterclass

Clay Death · « **Reply #2536 on:** June 21, 2015, 07:48:18 pm »

Quote from: masterclass on June 21, 2015, 02:29:46 pm

Quote from: Clay Death on June 20, 2015, 07:46:24 pm
Federer should be able to destroy seppi tomorrow.

will somebody go to MTF and fire up my roger Federer thread?

Federer is working hard and paying the dues on the practice and fitness front.

he declared just 3 days ago that he was in top form.

he is putting in the long, hard yards required on the fitness front.

and all the while having 4 kids and a wife at home.

Well general, not quite a destruction, but he took it in straight sets with a tiebreaker set in the 1st, where he won the tiebreaker 7-1.
Still, title #86 and a record 8th Halle title are in the bag. Congrats to him, and condolences to Seppi who did benefit a bit from retirements in the QF and SF to the perennial walking wounded Monfils and Nishikori.

The 100 title thread is seeing action again... people are starting to get really edgy with only 14 to go. A lot of haters saying Federer is vulturing, beating up on weak fields, etc. Others are saying he'll never do it because he will retire next year (how do they know?). Heck the guy is in his 34th year and still going strong at #2 and is taking in more endorsement money ($58M) than anyone in in all sports and 5th overall when adding earnings. Why should he stop unless he injures himself badly?

#1Floyd Mayweather $300M|#2Manny Pacquiao $160M|#3Cristiano Ronaldo $80M|#4 Lionel Messi $74.8 M|

#5 Roger Federer $67M

#6 LeBron James $64.8 M | #7 Kevin Durant $54.1 M | #8 Phil Mickelson $50.8 M | #9 Tiger Woods $50.6 M |

#10 Kobe Bryant $50M

Respectfully,
masterclass

great post.

he will get his 100 titles.

he has 4 kids at home and a wife.

still he is focused on breaking more records and chasing history.

34 is nothing to him. he works out daily and stretches at least 2 times daily.

he is working diligently to get more and more fit.

Federer will play until he is 43+.

more people should read Camelot general.

this is the no spin zone. here we call it like we see it.

we call it objectively.

masterclass · « **Reply #2537 on:** June 21, 2015, 11:55:14 pm »

Exactly general, great points. Enjoying your work is one of the keys to longevity in any career. In sports, fitness and resistance to injury is another obvious key.

Looking at the list again, I noticed there are two representatives in the top 10 in earnings from each sport, except tennis, which has one, and basketball with 3.

Boxing 2 - the top 2.
Football-Soccer - 3 & 4.
Tennis - 5
Basketball - 6, 7, 10
Golf - 8 & 9.

Nobody in the NFL or MLB in the top 10.

Nadal should have been in that list instead of Kobe Bryant at this point. And I think he should be more marketable than the golfers. His fans are legion on facebook and elsewhere. But I checked, and he is #22 at 32.5 M. 4.5 from tennis earnings and 28 M in endorsements. Back in 2011, his 31.5 M (10.5 from earnings, 21 M from endorsements) was good enough for #12 on the list. So he's doing better in endorsements and overall earnings, but still slipped compared to the others. I think Rafa's marketing people have some work to do if he is going to get back up there. Novak Djokovic has improved a lot. He is now #13 with 48.2 M (17.2 M from earnings, 31 M from endorsements).

Oh well, that's life in the fast lane...

Obviously, there are more important things in life. After all, you can only be marketable in sports for so long.

Respectfully,
masterclass

Clay Death · « **Reply #2538 on:** June 22, 2015, 12:15:08 am »

great post general masterclass.

nadal could have been the greatest of all time in terms of slams won. he may have been sitting on 18 slams today with 1-2 more to go.

but he took too many wrong turns. add endless injuries to that equation and you have a guy who has spent a lot of mental and physical capital.

I said this here long ago. what held nadal back was that he failed to innovate and progress his game.

it was still more than good to net him 14 majors. he would also own winning records against all top 30 players.

quite an achievement with a limited game.

nobody to blame at this point. he and his team simply did not hire the best fitness experts in the field.

they also did not teach him the slice and the volley very early on.

it is the same in business and in life. sooner or later you will get run over if you don't progress and innovate.

or at the very least you have to keep up/maintain your competitive advantage.

rafa's style of play is the most demanding ever seen in our sport. you pretty much had to be a super human to play that style.

you will note that other heavy topspin players who made history in our sport were also super humans. borg, vilas, and muster.

they called muster the iron man of tennis.

rafa was the greatest physical specimen of them all in our sport. he just could not keep it going. it took too much mental, physical, and emotional capital.

injuries set him back time and again. and then he became a mega global superstar anyway.

and the world simply took over. he lost focus. the world just cant get enough of him.

more on this later.

Clay Death · « **Reply #2539 on:** June 22, 2015, 12:32:58 am »

even to this day rafa simply refuses to expand his horizons on the practice courts.

he has become even more conservative. it is a rare sight to see him actually stand near the center of the court and hit both backhands and forehands.

often times he just parks himself in his backhand corner and just tries to hit as many forehands as possible. practice sessions keep getting shorter and shorter.

hitting on the hard courts has been a disaster for him. he has completely lost his ground game and his movement.

in fact he is back on them now. he went right back to the hard courts. you read that right: he is practicing on the hard courts right now.

there was a time to cut back-- in terms of practice and match play-- on the hard courts in order to minimize his injuries. and that time was right after the u.s. open title in 2013.

his work was on the hard courts was pretty much done at that point. he had 3 hard court slams. he has just taken down djokovic at flushing meadows again.

that was more than enough. he could have even had his 4th one if he just had just been able to skip some of the hard court events and get back on clay to stay healthy. I am talking about the time after the u.s. open in 2013.

he could have saved himself from the endless injuries and he would still be a dominant force. and he would have had his 10th RG.

now additional slams are in question. he has fallen too far behind.

even the masters events are in question, let alone slams.

more on this later.

thetruth · « **Reply #2540 on:** June 22, 2015, 01:30:07 am »

Quote from: Clay Death on June 21, 2015, 02:04:26 pm

Lady TT I think the harsh reality of all that be have observing and studying points to points to really one thing:

He may be thinking about retirement.

My hope is that he wakes up from this dream and realizes that he has a chance to stare down history.

How many will ever get that chance ever again?

Rafa stands alone to do this. He walked away too soon.

He can get back into it but the time is quickly running out.

He has to make his move.

That is the fear, but he's always said that he wouldn't play past the time that he was enjoying it, or ready to settle down and have a family. And if you think about it, this is about that time when people start considering the rest of their lives.

His heart's just not into it right now, so...you know. We'll have to wait and see...

More on this later.

thetruth · « **Reply #2541 on:** June 22, 2015, 01:35:42 am »

Quote from: masterclass on June 21, 2015, 02:29:46 pm

Quote from: Clay Death on June 20, 2015, 07:46:24 pm
Federer should be able to destroy seppi tomorrow.

will somebody go to MTF and fire up my roger Federer thread?

Federer is working hard and paying the dues on the practice and fitness front.

he declared just 3 days ago that he was in top form.

he is putting in the long, hard yards required on the fitness front.

and all the while having 4 kids and a wife at home.

Well general, not quite a destruction, but he took it in straight sets with a tiebreaker set in the 1st, where he won the tiebreaker 7-1.
Still, title #86 and a record 8th Halle title are in the bag. Congrats to him, and condolences to Seppi who did benefit a bit from retirements in the QF and SF to the perennial walking wounded Monfils and Nishikori.

The 100 title thread is seeing action again... people are starting to get really edgy with only 14 to go. A lot of haters saying Federer is vulturing, beating up on weak fields, etc. Others are saying he'll never do it because he will retire next year (how do they know?). Heck the guy is in his 34th year and still going strong at #2 and is taking in more endorsement money ($58M) than anyone in in all sports and 5th overall when adding earnings. Why should he stop unless he injures himself badly?

#1Floyd Mayweather $300M|#2Manny Pacquiao $160M|#3Cristiano Ronaldo $80M|#4 Lionel Messi $74.8 M|

#5 Roger Federer $67M

#6 LeBron James $64.8 M | #7 Kevin Durant $54.1 M | #8 Phil Mickelson $50.8 M | #9 Tiger Woods $50.6 M |

#10 Kobe Bryant $50M

Respectfully,
masterclass

That is ridiculous. People are so mean-spirited and unhappy. He's 34, healthy, and enjoying the game that's he's worked all of his life to achieve, and he should just quit so as not to offend their sensibilities. I can't believe people are hating about the #2 player in the world still going strong. Say it isn't so, masterclass, say it isn't so.

My mouth dropped when I read this post. How can anyone not marvel at what he's doing? Wow.

masterclass · « **Reply #2542 on:** June 22, 2015, 02:19:49 pm »

I don't understand it either Lady TT. The same thing happens with most of the top guns. All I can say is that there is usually an equal amount of delusion from rabid fans, and hatred from detractors.

I couldn't believe the hatred that Rafa, a genuinely nice guy by most accounts, got at MTF. And of course this transferred to baiting, trolling, and attacks on people in his fanbase. And of course there were was hate directed back toward other players. Anyone who is not top 10 in the world is basically a "mug" or "choker" because you can't count on their play being consistent enough to win as much as the legends.

Look, I can understand people from one fanbase not wanting to see his top competition succeed. That's pretty normal, I guess. But so many wish death, injury, calling the players derogatory names, having whole threads dedicated to trashing the player and his fans. I think there were even groups of posters that would get together and bait and attack other posters. It's really some sick stuff.

I'm sure General Hercules could tell you some horror stories.

But as with any forum there are some genuinely good posters and people out there.

Respectfully,
masterclass

masterclass · « **Reply #2543 on:** June 22, 2015, 02:45:58 pm »

Quote from: Clay Death on June 22, 2015, 12:32:58 am

even to this day rafa simply refuses to expand his horizons on the practice courts.

he has become even more conservative. it is a rare sight to see him actually stand near the center of the court and hit both backhands and forehands.

often times he just parks himself in his backhand corner and just tries to hit as many forehands as possible. practice sessions keep getting shorter and shorter.

hitting on the hard courts has been a disaster for him. he has completely lost his ground game and his movement.

in fact he is back on them now. he went right back to the hard courts. you read that right: he is practicing on the hard courts right now.

there was a time to cut back-- in terms of practice and match play-- on the hard courts in order to minimize his injuries. and that time was right after the u.s. open title in 2013.

his work was on the hard courts was pretty much done at that point. he had 3 hard court slams. he has just taken down djokovic at flushing meadows again.

that was more than enough. he could have even had his 4th one if he just had just been able to skip some of the hard court events and get back on clay to stay healthy. I am talking about the time after the u.s. open in 2013.

he could have saved himself from the endless injuries and he would still be a dominant force. and he would have had his 10th RG.

now additional slams are in question. he has fallen too far behind.

even the masters events are in question, let alone slams.

more on this later.

I have to agree general. What could have been? Well, I guess we all take decisions at some point that aren't the best, that's part of being human.

But I like to look at the positive also. He's done more with what he has than almost anyone on the planet. He's still under 30. He has a whole life ahead of him, from a personal standpoint, family, etc. Yes, it can be frustrating to see the wrong turns, but we generally take the correct path for granted and often don't understand why someone would stray from it.

One thing I've noticed with Rafa, he has many times returned to great play when people thought him down and out. One can't know how many more times he'll be able to pull that off, but I know I won't count him out until he hangs up his racquet and shoes. Doom and gloom often gives way to heightened hopes and sparkling success as long as passion and dedication exists. Let's see what happens.

Respectfully,
masterclass

Clay Death · « **Reply #2544 on:** June 22, 2015, 03:18:00 pm »

people at MTF are 1/2 nuts.

but at least we founded the castle there which will last forever and ever. we built lasting monuments there that cannot be brought down.

and some of our threads at the general discussion section will also live on.

I know our roger Federer will thread will live on forever and ever.

the castle has become one of the largest chat threads of all time. it just keeps growing there.

I don't know how many volumes it has as I have not been there in a while.

I am sure about 65 volumes with each volume having 5000 posts.

Clay Death · « **Reply #2545 on:** June 22, 2015, 09:20:43 pm »

Camelot is going to be a vibrant, active community of a small but wonderful family one day.

people here are so cool. everybody just does their own thing and has a wonderful time.

so quiet and so peaceful here.

thetruth · « **Reply #2546 on:** June 23, 2015, 12:40:13 am »

Quote from: masterclass on June 22, 2015, 02:19:49 pm

I don't understand it either Lady TT. The same thing happens with most of the top guns. All I can say is that there is usually an equal amount of delusion from rabid fans, and hatred from detractors.

I couldn't believe the hatred that Rafa, a genuinely nice guy by most accounts, got at MTF. And of course this transferred to baiting, trolling, and attacks on people in his fanbase. And of course there were was hate directed back toward other players. Anyone who is not top 10 in the world is basically a "mug" or "choker" because you can't count on their play being consistent enough to win as much as the legends.

Look, I can understand people from one fanbase not wanting to see his top competition succeed. That's pretty normal, I guess. But so many wish death, injury, calling the players derogatory names, having whole threads dedicated to trashing the player and his fans. I think there were even groups of posters that would get together and bait and attack other posters. It's really some sick stuff.

I'm sure General Hercules could tell you some horror stories.

But as with any forum there are some genuinely good posters and people out there.

Respectfully,
masterclass

I met The General on Talk Tennis, so I am well acquainted with forum behavior. TT is all that you said and more. We all feel an affinity for our favorite players, but dogging other players out and wishing death on people is beyond twisted. You don't have to be a fan of another player, but you can still be respectful. They're human and all of them have worked hard to get where they're at.

I think what Federer has done and is doing is impressive. I'm actually more impressed with the latter part of his career. That's because he's done enough and yet, he continues to train, eat right, and prepare for battle with people much younger than he is.

Anyone who can't respect that has a problem. I respect what Novak is doing as well.

All of these players deserve kudos as far as I'm concerned, but to hear that people have negative things to say about what Federer is doing right now, is just crazy. Really crazy. I have no words.

thetruth · « **Reply #2547 on:** June 23, 2015, 12:45:00 am »

Quote from: Clay Death on June 22, 2015, 09:20:43 pm

Camelot is going to be a vibrant, active community of a small but wonderful family one day.

people here are so cool. everybody just does their own thing and has a wonderful time.

so quiet and so peaceful here.

You're right about that. It's so nice to be able to actually have discussions without all the stupidity and anger. I go to TT about three times a year to check out the Nadal thread, but don't venture into the general pro section or match results. It's too ridiculous the way these people act.

Bobbi loves it here. I knew she would.

Clay Death · « **Reply #2548 on:** June 23, 2015, 11:34:12 am »

Camelot is a wonderful place for people to have a voice. they can say anything they please here and they can do anything here. Camelot is for the people.

they can have unlimited threads here.

we have also transformed it into a bit of learning center that is fun and inspiring.

thetruth · « **Reply #2549 on:** June 23, 2015, 04:16:49 pm »

Quote from: Clay Death on June 23, 2015, 11:34:12 am

Camelot is a wonderful place for people to have a voice. they can say anything they please here and they can do anything here. Camelot is for the people.

they can have unlimited threads here.

we have also transformed it into a bit of learning center that is fun and inspiring.

We also have a sophisticated, intelligent, and mature crowd. That's Camelot's crowning glory.

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