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people who see him up close at the tournaments say he looks horribly unfit and even soft.



that does not take a rocket scientist to figure that out. you can just watch his matches.


he is worn out after 40 minutes of play.


he was very lucky last year to take RG. he lost just 2 sets and took the final in 4 but was totally spent anyway.

his hand started cramping and he even threw up. he could not even hold the trophy.



this is not new. I saw all this coming well over 2 years ago.



my indicator was the long rally. he started to lose the long rallies.


he also started spending more time in between points. you could just see him double over from time to time.

he started to tire far sooner than he ever had.


but he had the fight so he kept fighting.



he faced nobody ranked higher than #53 in rio and should have actually lost that match. Pablo had 4 match points.



again rafa got very lucky. nole suffered from some self belief and rafa came to fight.



now rafa does not fight. tony called it right when he said that rafa just check out in the middle of the match.



what he was really trying to say was that rafa runs out of gas and stops what little fight he is bringing these days.



and of course tony had to stop saying that in order to be more optimistic and more positive for Rafa.   


this is why he said that rafa's level was good enough to win at RG. it was not quite obviously.


tony would say the same thing about Wimbledon. he said rafa was one of the favorites for Wimbledon.



but that good for public consumption and for the fans and the sponsors.




you cant escape the bottom line: rafa is not putting in the work on the fitness front and on the practice courts.


he just does not care enough to go out there fight them to death anymore.



he does not care to win.




this is a much tougher reality on me because I have suffered through this for over 2 years. it is painful for me see this.


I do not watch rafa play anymore. I know his game and his fitness level better than anyone on the planet.


I know what is going to happen. I just cant bear to watch it.




I knew exactly what was going to happen well over 2 years ago. he was going to lose his ground game and his fitness and his physicality.

and injuries were going to expedite that process and they did.


it did not have to end this way. he could have still been on top with better training, better fitness, and better scheduling.




also people are not getting this. this is not a normal up and down thing. this is not a slump.


he simply refuses to fix his fitness and his game.


more on this later.

Why do you think he let his fitness go? When did you first begin to notice it, and did you think he just wasn't practicing hard enough? 

Ive noticed that you and masterclass said that you saw it two years ago. 2013? or 2012? I also remember you all saying that he wasn't listening to anybody.

But there's also a mental aspect. Everthing starts in the mind. Why wouldn't he want to put the hard yards in? I'm confused.




I saw this coming years ago as did Agassi. rafa never bothered to change anything.

he never bothered to innovate and progress.

his forehand, his fitness, his staggering physicality, his will, his relentless hunger to fight overcame them all.

that is why he had a winning record against 100% of the top 30 players.


they all feared rafa.


but over time you knew that others would catch on and he would let his levels slip.


at the same time he was not bringing anything new to his game. in fact he was not even managing to keep up what he had.



so you knew they would overtake him and they did. now players even 10 years older who will never win anything can defeat rafa on any surface.



rafa would have won zero games against nole, Federer, murray, and even wawrinka today.


rafa struggled even against baggy who struggles even at the challenger circuit.


it took rafa 3 hours to get rid of baggy in Stuttgart.



we have to face the facts. he is not losing because they are beating him.


he has defeated himself long before he makes it to the court.


he has no fitness, no backhand, no return, damn near no forehand and pathetic court positioning.


he might be ranked #10 but he can lost to a guy ranked outside 200 tomorrow.



this is the biggest and the most staggering fall ever for an all time great player.


clearly he does not want it anymore.




anyway back to the original point, his style of play was too demanding. it required immense fitness and physicality which he had and worked very hard on.


he spent staggering amount of physical and mental capital in winning all his titles. he could not have done it without his fitness and his physicality.


at the same time he grew into a global force. he became immensely wealthy. in fact the corporate world just keeps lining up for him even now.

many of his endorsements are for a lifetime.


so the world and the sponsors started to demand his time.


he discovered golf and poker along the way. and then there was soccer and gaming on computers.


and now the tennis academy. there was also much focus on the foundation.


so combination of all those factors made him lose focus on what made him one of the greatest to ever pick up a racquet.


injuries did not help. they helped bring about the decline that much faster.



at some point he just gave up the fight. shortly after that loss to wawrinka in Melbourne in 2014 he just went away.




but his failure to improve, progress, and innovate and his steadfast refusal to change a single thing brought about his fall.


his camp never brought any outside help.


he would never bother to change a thing. he only talked about it here and there for public consumption. he was a creature of habit. he did not want to change.


he won 14 majors so it is a bit hard to argue with rafa. his style was more than good enough to dominate the whole planet.


but the mental and the physical capital he spent to win all that he did took its toll on him and his body.




more on this later.



clearly he needed to focus more on clay right after the u.s. open title run in 2013. that would have kept him healthy also.


and to come back very healthy and very strong in 2014 to take 2-3 slams.



now I doubt he will win another title again. not at the current rate of decline.





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RIP: Rafael Nadal (2003-2015)?

by Sean Randall | July 2nd, 2015, 7:08 pm



 
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All great athletes rise, all great athletes fall. Falling and failing, that’s what’s happening right now to Rafael Nadal.

Earlier today, as many of you saw, Nadal was sent out of Wimbledon for the fourth year in a row by a player who had no business beating a former No. 1. After head-scratching losses to Lukas Rosol, Steve Darcis and Nick Kyrgios, today the man who ended his grass season and effectively ended Nadal’s hopes of ever winning another Wimbledon, was Dustin Brown, a 102nd-ranked journeyman best known for having dreadlocks and once playing the tour out of a van.

The same issues that plagued Nadal all season once again spelled the demise of the Spaniard today. Brown did what he was supposed to do, pump the serve, play aggressive, keep the points short and close if given the opportunity. Brown checked all four boxes.

But Nadal just couldn’t find the range. Balls were carelessly sprayed, balls were landing short, his court positioning was poor, and he just couldn’t make the passing shots when he had to. On numerous occasions, Rafa couldn’t even manage to get a basic ball back. And sometimes the only thing he could hit with his racquet was his body.

Nadal once was on top of the world, threatening to eclipse Roger Federer’s greatness. Now he’s having trouble even to reach a round where he’d play Federer.

In the last year since winning the French Open, Nadal has just two titles in Buenos Aires and last month in Stuttgart, both over mediocre fields. Against his rivals, he’s been a shadow of his former self.

Since winning the French 15 months ago, he hasn’t beaten a Top 5 players, hasn’t made a Slam semifinal nor has he won a European clay title.

Of course Nadal has the experience and the talent to get back up to the top, but there’s been little evidence of that this season. Sure, guys can rebound and reboot. That happens all the time. Federer went through a slump, Murray’s had issues, and they got through.

Andre Agassi dropped to the challengers before roaring back, returning to greatness into his 30s.

Nadal’s case is vastly different, though.

Rafa isn’t even 30 yet, but unlike Agassi, he’s put more miles on his tires than most at that age. And unlike Federer, who plays a graceful, effortless games, Nadal puts his body through hell in every match.

Agassi, Federer and Murray also sought outside help when needed, bringing in new voices to help improve game. Nadal, however, has always been under the watchful eye of his uncle Toni and no one else. It’s hard to imagine him changing this now. It’s family first for Rafa.

So is this it for Rafa? Are his days of eating Grand Slam trophies and challenging for No. 1 over? Will he ever make another big final, or contend for major titles?

Sadly right now, everything points to no, no?


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we all have to face reality at some point.

rafa doesn't care to dominate the planet anymore.


even 40% rafa of the old would be too much for these players he is losing to.



but this is like less than 20% rafa of the old with much diminished fitness. it is going to be very hard to beat anybody with this dynamic.



this breaks my heart but I saw this coming ages ago.

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RIP: Rafael Nadal (2003-2015)?

by Sean Randall | July 2nd, 2015, 7:08 pm



 
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All great athletes rise, all great athletes fall. Falling and failing, that’s what’s happening right now to Rafael Nadal.

Earlier today, as many of you saw, Nadal was sent out of Wimbledon for the fourth year in a row by a player who had no business beating a former No. 1. After head-scratching losses to Lukas Rosol, Steve Darcis and Nick Kyrgios, today the man who ended his grass season and effectively ended Nadal’s hopes of ever winning another Wimbledon, was Dustin Brown, a 102nd-ranked journeyman best known for having dreadlocks and once playing the tour out of a van.

The same issues that plagued Nadal all season once again spelled the demise of the Spaniard today. Brown did what he was supposed to do, pump the serve, play aggressive, keep the points short and close if given the opportunity. Brown checked all four boxes.

But Nadal just couldn’t find the range. Balls were carelessly sprayed, balls were landing short, his court positioning was poor, and he just couldn’t make the passing shots when he had to. On numerous occasions, Rafa couldn’t even manage to get a basic ball back. And sometimes the only thing he could hit with his racquet was his body.

Nadal once was on top of the world, threatening to eclipse Roger Federer’s greatness. Now he’s having trouble even to reach a round where he’d play Federer.

In the last year since winning the French Open, Nadal has just two titles in Buenos Aires and last month in Stuttgart, both over mediocre fields. Against his rivals, he’s been a shadow of his former self.

Since winning the French 15 months ago, he hasn’t beaten a Top 5 players, hasn’t made a Slam semifinal nor has he won a European clay title.

Of course Nadal has the experience and the talent to get back up to the top, but there’s been little evidence of that this season. Sure, guys can rebound and reboot. That happens all the time. Federer went through a slump, Murray’s had issues, and they got through.

Andre Agassi dropped to the challengers before roaring back, returning to greatness into his 30s.

Nadal’s case is vastly different, though.

Rafa isn’t even 30 yet, but unlike Agassi, he’s put more miles on his tires than most at that age. And unlike Federer, who plays a graceful, effortless games, Nadal puts his body through hell in every match.

Agassi, Federer and Murray also sought outside help when needed, bringing in new voices to help improve game. Nadal, however, has always been under the watchful eye of his uncle Toni and no one else. It’s hard to imagine him changing this now. It’s family first for Rafa.

So is this it for Rafa? Are his days of eating Grand Slam trophies and challenging for No. 1 over? Will he ever make another big final, or contend for major titles?

Sadly right now, everything points to no, no?



LOL! the experts, again. they crack me up, when they're not infuriating me.

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life will be hard with no rafa in tennis.



I had hoped that he would play until he was 35-36 and leave fighting like hell as always.



we will just have re-live his glory years over and over again here at Camelot. what else can we do.


the sport of tennis will go into a steep decline after rafa and roger.

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life will be hard with no rafa in tennis.



I had hoped that he would play until he was 35-36 and leave fighting like hell as always.



we will just have re-live his glory years over and over again here at Camelot. what else can we do.


the sport of tennis will go into a steep decline after rafa and roger.

I can't even imagine tennis without Rafa. I stubbornly refuse to accept that this is the end. If I believed that this was the end I would be sad, but I don't feel that way. I always feel the heart of the people that I love, and yes I love Rafa. Rafa is not a quitter and I'll hang in there until the end.

I really don't feel like this is it for him. And you know I've never believed that "taxing style" theory. It doesn't make sense to me as I watch all of the players on tour. In fact, the only "expert" that I listen to is Brad Gilbert, I find him to be honest; the other ones not so much.

You'll see. 

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you better forget about brad gilbert.



you, me, and general masterclass are the ultimate experts.


so we will just listen to ourselves only. ha ha.

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at some point he just gave up the fight. shortly after that loss to wawrinka in Melbourne in 2014 he just went away.

General, you hit the nail on the head.  This is the result that delivered the crushing blow.  Wawrinka hits probably the heaviest shots in tennis. We just saw how he pummeled Novak Djokovic at Roland Garros.  If Novak were the slightest bit unfit or had any body weakness, I believe Wawrinka would have injured him. We saw how he injured Federer's back in the Master's Cup (WTF) at the very end of a tough match. He extended Federer to a point where the weakest part of his body failed.  A similar thing happened to Rafa at the 2014 Australian Open.  He wasn't quite fit enough, and Wawrinka played a monster first set and part way into the second set driving heavy shots that just extended Rafa past his physical limits, injured his back and began a decline in his confidence and mojo.

Once that happened, Rafa was struggling physically and emotionally the rest of the year and beyond.  The only thing he won of note was Roland Garros, but he did that mostly on inertia of his past glory and aura that created doubt in the minds of his opponents.  He struggled to win it, and has done virtually nothing of note since.

But the cause of these results happened before that.  I think after winning so much in 2013, holding that US Open trophy in his hand, something must have snapped in his head.  You see it often in the greats where they have accomplished something so big that they feel there is nothing left to prove and their motivation to keep achieving fails. 

I think it happened with Federer after a superb 2012, where he won Wimbledon, returned to #1, passed Sampras' record, and held it to Paris getting up to 302 weeks at #1.  What happened to him after that?  He went on a South American exhibition tour during the off season, and didn't train hard as he usually did.  He said to everyone that 2013 would be a transition year, where he would practice more and play less, and maybe experiment with some things like changing racquets.  In 2013, what happened?  His lack of training over the winter had made him vulnerable, and he reaped the whirlwind.  He hurt his back playing Dodig at Indian Wells, continued playing in the tournament instead of withdrawing, exacerbating it when managing to win against Wawrinka, then was obviously hampered by it when he lost to Nadal.  After that he wasn't the same. 

In 2013, Federer won only 1 title, in Halle.  He had averaged 4-5 titles/year from 2008 to 2012.  He shockingly lost in the second round at Wimbledon to #116 Stakhovsky, his worst loss in a major since 2002.  Sound familiar?  After that he went on the clay and experimented with switching to a larger racquet, but hurt his back again in Gstaad on clay, went back to his old racquet, but got beaten in Cinci,  and at the US Open lost to a player that had never beaten him, and should never have beaten him on hard courts, Robredo.  Sound familiar? After losing in New York early, Federer trained fairly hard and in the fall gradually began to recover his form and played decently, but didn't win anything with a final in Basel and semifinal results in Paris and London at the WTF.  In the off season between 2013 and 2014, Federer trained hard in Dubai again, got fit, and switched racquets from his old 90" to his current 97" model. 

So what happened? In 2014, he ended up making 11 finals, the most since his 12 finals in 2007.  He won only 5 of those, but two were Masters, and he was very close to winning Wimbledon. Even though his forehand was still not right after switching racquets, his backhand had more power, and his serve also was better.  But that power forehand was needed to win the close ones, and that was his goal for 2015, to win a higher percentage of finals than 50%.  So far in 2015 he has 4 wins in 6 finals, and his power forehand is coming around.  Against Querrey, I saw him unleash it like Federer of old.  So if he can keep that up, I think he'll be difficult to beat at Wimbledon this year, but we'll see, his age makes it more difficult to recover after tough ones. If he can keep winning these best of 5 in an hour until he gets to the business end he'll give himself a great chance.

I won't go into Murray's issues in detail, but it began with his victory at Wimbledon in 2013.  He achieved something monumental for himself.  He said it was his absolute dream, becoming the first British man in 77 years to win it.  After this win, he did not look as motivated, lost in some early rounds during the summer hard court season, and then finally elected to have surgery in the fall.  He couldn't train until late December.  2014 was his dead year.  He did almost nothing until the fall of 2014, where he won some minor tournaments that allowed him to qualify for the Master's Cup, but he was clearly spent and suffered heavy losses at the WTF, including his worst ever tour loss almost getting a double bagel from Federer.  Finally, Murray in the off season was able to train hard and get fit, and his results have been excellent since and he is back to #3 in the world, #2 in the race, and with a wide open draw now (Ferrer withdrawal, Nadal loss), he is almost a cinch to get to the semis at Wimbledon.

So what happened with Rafa after his 2013 US Open win?  What did he do, do you recall?  He followed Federer's example and in the off season went to South America and played in exhibitions, which cut his usual off season training. He played golf and poker. He did other things, and lost his fitness, and has paid the price since, starting with the 2014 Australian Open, and culminating with this loss to Brown at Wimbledon in 2015.  There is a difference between Nadal, and the Federer/Murray examples though.  They lost only a year. Rafa has had almost 2 years of struggling.  I think this happened purely because of poor decision making at the end of 2014. He should have taken that appendix surgery immediately, and not continued to play. Play for what?  Bad decision and I believe it cost him 2015.  After delaying that surgery, his off season training was delayed and very short.  He had no time to get fit for 2015, and we are seeing the result.

So, like Federer and Murray, I think if he wants to do it, he can train hard over the 2015-2016 off season and restore his fitness.  He has time now after Wimbledon to train some, but it isn't quite the same.  He can recover maybe 20-30% and maybe it will give him some fair results the rest of the year, not traditionally his strongest part of a season.  But he needs that off season over the winter to really train hard, and then I think you might see a different Nadal in 2016. Or should I say the Nadal of old?  But that only happens if he gets that fitness back, and if he wants it.  If not, then at his age/mileage, it won't look good for him, and he will put himself at high risk of getting injured again.  There are no short cuts (legal ones, anyway); he has to put in the hard work in the off season to perform well in 2016 and beyond.  He says he is physically healthy, so there is no excuse not to train hard, unless he just doesn't want to do it anymore. 

Rafa has excellent examples to follow, but whatever Rafa chooses to do, I wish him the best.

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great post general masterclass.



that is the big worry now. he opens himself to countless injuries with such a depleted physical state.



he said that he was going to come back stronger next year. I thought that would mean that he starts on that now.


but we are seeing exactly zero signs of that "stronger next year so I can be more competitive" happening.


he just keeps getting worse and his physical condition keeps deteriorating.


his practice sessions are weaker than ever. he just stands in his backhand corner hitting a few forehands. 90 minute workouts are nearly token workouts at best.



he basically has no ground game now. the hit in his ground game stands at about 90% now. the depleted physical state makes the ground game that much worse.

it is has killed his court positioning so there is no consistency.


the casualties are very heavy in all areas. that is a direct result of his refusal to work on his game and his fitness.


he gets worn out there after 40 minutes of hard play. that is why he starts to spray the balls. with no energy and will he just checks out.



I am afraid all signs point to the end. he is not really bringing about that "stronger next year".


that stronger next year should have started right after RG.


sad and tragic as it may sound for us the fans and the sport, he simply does not want it bad enough.


this is the man who had the greatest ground game the world has ever known. he owned winning records against all top 30 players.


no other all time great has dropped that rapidly before. so if he does not walk away now and just go work on his fitness and his game on clay, the end is pretty much here.


next injury is also quite likely with such a depleted physical state.



I am worried about it.



more on this later.

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The sad reality is that Rafa's true rank would be outside top 100 right now and that is being generous.


I am afraid the fall is too steep.


It would take 8 months just to fix fitness.


And  then there is his game. Nothing can fix it unless he starts practicing 7-8 hours a day on clay.


He should be on clay right now. Practicing.


He does not need a coach. He needs his fire and hunger and drive back.


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Federer gets it done in 4.


http://www.livescore.in/tennis/

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Federer and serena should have been more than enough motivation for Rafa but he just does not care to win anymore.




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well here it is. you heard it here first.


I think next injury puts him out of the sport for good. he doesn't care to work anyway.


so it makes no sense to keep showing up so horribly unprepared and keep having to explain to the press in those required press interviews why it is not working.



it is not working because he doesn't want to work.


it has to get terribly embarrassing at some point to keep losing every other match and losing to total unknowns who are over the hill in terms of age.


dustin brown has no game. he is over 30 and ranked outside top 100.



I think it is pretty clear now that he wants out of the sport.  and rest assured that the next injury will make it easy for that happen.



there is less than month to go for the u.s. open. no way in hell can he catch up with the horses out in the front.


at this point he has no ground game, no movement, no serve, no return, and no will.


he has lost his relentless will to fight to the death out there.


I see absolutely no point in not getting on clay right now when he just keeps getting worse and worse.


he should have signed up for 2 clay events and forget about rogers cup. what good is a first or a second round loss there.


I just don't get it. he refuses to work. and worse he refuses to change a single thing.



about the only positive is that he will lose early at all 3 events and perhaps save himself from injury.


but then there are all those other hard court events after the u.s. open. so most likely the next injury happens on the hard courts due to horrible preparation and depleted state of physical fitness.


the chances for injury are considerably greater now than ever before because of age also.



I am not happy with him but this is what he wants to do. all signs now point to an early retirement.



I really thought that he would sign up for 2 clay events to start putting his ground game together.

that is what needed to happen. I would have skipped Wimbledon.


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general hercules, news out of Bastad in the last day is that the Swedish Open tournament director is holding a wild card for Nadal and they are talking to him.

": I saved a wild card for special surprises like this. We will of course pay him a sum, but he has such a large market so we can take the discussion later in this case, says Swedish Open's tournament director Christer Hult."

We should know more on Monday...

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So many pundits like McEnroe talking about Nadal axing Toni Nadal. McEnroe is just trying to stir the pot and get attention.  I'm almost sure it will never happen. Uncle Toni might walk away at a point of his own choosing but he won't be railroaded out, and neither will Nadal fire him.  I don't think this is an Uncle Toni problem.

Now what I think would be a great move is for Nadal to hire not a coach but a new physio trainer and for the team to put an emphasis on recovering his fitness.

If I could get Muster's physio I would.  No matter the cost of tearing him away from Djokovic, if he is still with him.  Or somebody like him.

But again, Rafa has to want it.  I think he has two choices if he wants it enough.  Get out there and play in some clay events, or don't play but train hard.

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general hercules, news out of Bastad in the last day is that the Swedish Open tournament director is holding a wild card for Nadal and they are talking to him.

": I saved a wild card for special surprises like this. We will of course pay him a sum, but he has such a large market so we can take the discussion later in this case, says Swedish Open's tournament director Christer Hult."

We should know more on Monday...

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So many pundits like McEnroe talking about Nadal axing Toni Nadal. McEnroe is just trying to stir the pot and get attention.  I'm almost sure it will never happen. Uncle Toni might walk away at a point of his own choosing but he won't be railroaded out, and neither will Nadal fire him.  I don't think this is an Uncle Toni problem.

Now what I think would be a great move is for Nadal to hire not a coach but a new physio trainer and for the team to put an emphasis on recovering his fitness.

If I could get Muster's physio I would.  No matter the cost of tearing him away from Djokovic, if he is still with him.  Or somebody like him.

But again, Rafa has to want it.  I think he has two choices if he wants it enough.  Get out there and play in some clay events, or don't play but train hard.

Respectfully,
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I think he is going to Canada next.



the man is just not going to learn until he is out of top 50. or out of the sport.


he is not even playing top 100 tennis right now.



clay is the wellspring from which he flows.



people forget that he won on clay in 2013.



he just got on a bit of roll then played one of his greatest matches ever at the 2013 u.s. open final.



Federer was not 100% and andy murray was in a bit of slump.


rafa got a upper hand on nole on clay and them just kept it on the north American hard court circuit.



more on this later.




clay is what makes him. if he cant win on clay then he cant win anywhere.


that is pretty much the bottom line. 46 clay titles should be enough of a clue for him and his team.





but it is all about fitness and physicality. he cant win without it at all on any surface.



so fitness and physicality and then immense amount of practice and match play on clay can save his career.


he has no other options left.



it is either that or no tennis soon.




 

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