CAMELOT FANTASIES

Quote from: thetruth on August 13, 2015, 02:11:26 pm

Quote from: Clay Death on August 13, 2015, 09:08:26 am

Quote from: thetruth on August 13, 2015, 05:23:56 am

Rafa's level of play wasn't that good. He'll be out in the next couple of rounds, but what is encouraging is that he was engaged. But losing serve twice when serving for the set and match in a not-so-competitive match? Maybe there was a little improvement but the players ranked in the 40's will run him ragged.  He's going to have to train hard for the 2016 season if he wants to have a chance. The ? is, does he want it enough to do that?

agreed.

I remain worried.



my biggest worry is that he is going to get hurt and that will be the end.


I don't know why he is doing this. this is not rocket science.


he cant beat these guys with his current game and his remedial fitness.



I don't know why he cant train 7-8 hours a day. you break that into 2 long workouts.



what is the point in losing to these unknown players when he owned winning records against all of the top 30 players.



why go to battle unprepared.

It's so baffling in one way, but then again, it kind of backs up what he's been saying all along. I don't remember Rafa making claims that he wanted to be the greatest or even play after a certain point. I think he was satisfied with where he was and grateful to have gotten there, but the thought of chasing status never seemed to be a priority for him. That's what you need if you want to scale new heights. There's been many times that he's said that he wasn't trying to catch Federer and I think he meant it. He was playing for himself, not the history books.

In that sense he's already accomplished more than he ever dreamed of. Nothing about his background suggests that he would have the same ardor as other top players. As soon as a big tournament is over he heads straight back to Mallorca to relax with family and friends and work on his foundation.

He reminds me of Lleyton Hewitt so much. They both play for the love of the game and being competitive, not the love of external things. That's why they can accept losses so easily and continue to suit up. I think Rafa will play until he no longer enjoys it, but it will be for his reasons and no one else.

If he was concerned about staying the best, becoming the major leader he would make changes. That's what you do when you're focused on a particular goal. He would hire a world class physio, train in eight hour blocks, and fix the problems he has in his game. Right now I think he's only playing for the fans who clamor to see him on court and he doesn't want to disappoint them, but as for his own goals, he's satisfied with what he has done.

If it wasn't for the fans, I think he'd quit and go live his life.

It's hard to explain, but I understand it. I find it vulgar to chase about status. I don't feel that I need to prove anything to anyone and the thought of proving others wrong means nothing to me. When I was in karate my sensei wanted to make me his star pupil because I was a natural. But those were his dreams not mine and I felt no obligation to fulfill his desires. I didn't need to be a champion I was doing karate for myself. To strengthen my body and mind and push myself to its limits. I walked away when something else took my interest away. My sensei kept trying to get me to come back, but I had accomplished my goals and was done. The trophies that were gathering dust in my basement were put out in the trash, but what I'd done was inside of me.

A good example of Rafa's mindset was the AO 2009. After that grueling SF with Verdasco he was beat and wasn't going to play the final. If it hadn't been for Uncle Toni he wouldn't have competed at all. It was his relentless will to win at that time that got him through. Also, when he was beating Novak and Andy at a good clip, he always respected their talent. He never thought he was "better" than them but thought they were very worthy opponents. Many people don't understand that. They say, "he can't be that humble and be that good" but the opposite is true. No matter how good you are, the strength is in knowing both your strengths and weaknesses. To pretend that you have no weaknesses is foolish. And talking "confident" means nothing. If people are silly enough to buy into that, that's on them. Saying I'm not playing well is the truth, period. What's the point of saying otherwise? The thing about the fake it tll you make it, is BS to me. The problem with that attitude is that it's fake, how is that good? I don't think you need to assure people that you've still got it speaks to a need for validation. If I'm playing bad, I'm playing bad. Why would I have to need to convince others?

Rafa will ultimately decide whether he wants to go on and records, status, and history in the game will not be a priority for him. He will be satisfied with what he accomplished. Will he regret it later? He might, but if given the same choice I think he'd opt for the same decision.

Everyone is unique and no one is held to anyone else's standards. That's what so many people don't seem to understand. The only person you should ever choose to prove anything to is yourself, everything else is incidental.

great post.




I think you hit on most the points. you are spot on.




he really doesn't want to bother with the brutal training and the endless focus required to dominate the sport.


he walked away from the sport.


more on this later.

Quote from: Clay Death on August 13, 2015, 07:24:33 pm

Quote from: thetruth on August 13, 2015, 02:11:26 pm

Quote from: Clay Death on August 13, 2015, 09:08:26 am

Quote from: thetruth on August 13, 2015, 05:23:56 am

Rafa's level of play wasn't that good. He'll be out in the next couple of rounds, but what is encouraging is that he was engaged. But losing serve twice when serving for the set and match in a not-so-competitive match? Maybe there was a little improvement but the players ranked in the 40's will run him ragged.  He's going to have to train hard for the 2016 season if he wants to have a chance. The ? is, does he want it enough to do that?

agreed.

I remain worried.



my biggest worry is that he is going to get hurt and that will be the end.


I don't know why he is doing this. this is not rocket science.


he cant beat these guys with his current game and his remedial fitness.



I don't know why he cant train 7-8 hours a day. you break that into 2 long workouts.



what is the point in losing to these unknown players when he owned winning records against all of the top 30 players.



why go to battle unprepared.

It's so baffling in one way, but then again, it kind of backs up what he's been saying all along. I don't remember Rafa making claims that he wanted to be the greatest or even play after a certain point. I think he was satisfied with where he was and grateful to have gotten there, but the thought of chasing status never seemed to be a priority for him. That's what you need if you want to scale new heights. There's been many times that he's said that he wasn't trying to catch Federer and I think he meant it. He was playing for himself, not the history books.

In that sense he's already accomplished more than he ever dreamed of. Nothing about his background suggests that he would have the same ardor as other top players. As soon as a big tournament is over he heads straight back to Mallorca to relax with family and friends and work on his foundation.

He reminds me of Lleyton Hewitt so much. They both play for the love of the game and being competitive, not the love of external things. That's why they can accept losses so easily and continue to suit up. I think Rafa will play until he no longer enjoys it, but it will be for his reasons and no one else.

If he was concerned about staying the best, becoming the major leader he would make changes. That's what you do when you're focused on a particular goal. He would hire a world class physio, train in eight hour blocks, and fix the problems he has in his game. Right now I think he's only playing for the fans who clamor to see him on court and he doesn't want to disappoint them, but as for his own goals, he's satisfied with what he has done.

If it wasn't for the fans, I think he'd quit and go live his life.

It's hard to explain, but I understand it. I find it vulgar to chase about status. I don't feel that I need to prove anything to anyone and the thought of proving others wrong means nothing to me. When I was in karate my sensei wanted to make me his star pupil because I was a natural. But those were his dreams not mine and I felt no obligation to fulfill his desires. I didn't need to be a champion I was doing karate for myself. To strengthen my body and mind and push myself to its limits. I walked away when something else took my interest away. My sensei kept trying to get me to come back, but I had accomplished my goals and was done. The trophies that were gathering dust in my basement were put out in the trash, but what I'd done was inside of me.

A good example of Rafa's mindset was the AO 2009. After that grueling SF with Verdasco he was beat and wasn't going to play the final. If it hadn't been for Uncle Toni he wouldn't have competed at all. It was his relentless will to win at that time that got him through. Also, when he was beating Novak and Andy at a good clip, he always respected their talent. He never thought he was "better" than them but thought they were very worthy opponents. Many people don't understand that. They say, "he can't be that humble and be that good" but the opposite is true. No matter how good you are, the strength is in knowing both your strengths and weaknesses. To pretend that you have no weaknesses is foolish. And talking "confident" means nothing. If people are silly enough to buy into that, that's on them. Saying I'm not playing well is the truth, period. What's the point of saying otherwise? The thing about the fake it tll you make it, is BS to me. The problem with that attitude is that it's fake, how is that good? I don't think you need to assure people that you've still got it speaks to a need for validation. If I'm playing bad, I'm playing bad. Why would I have to need to convince others?

Rafa will ultimately decide whether he wants to go on and records, status, and history in the game will not be a priority for him. He will be satisfied with what he accomplished. Will he regret it later? He might, but if given the same choice I think he'd opt for the same decision.

Everyone is unique and no one is held to anyone else's standards. That's what so many people don't seem to understand. The only person you should ever choose to prove anything to is yourself, everything else is incidental.

great post.




I think you hit on most the points. you are spot on.




he really doesn't want to bother with the brutal training and the endless focus required to dominate the sport.


he walked away from the sport.


more on this later.

This right here is the problem. He isn't committed to the sport right now. I just don't understand why he's fooling himself. It's like he's phoning it in. If so, just say that, but when you're cramping after a two set match just admit you're not committed or motivated at this point.

Quote from: thetruth on August 18, 2015, 05:55:27 am

Quote from: Clay Death on August 13, 2015, 07:24:33 pm

Quote from: thetruth on August 13, 2015, 02:11:26 pm

Quote from: Clay Death on August 13, 2015, 09:08:26 am

Quote from: thetruth on August 13, 2015, 05:23:56 am

Rafa's level of play wasn't that good. He'll be out in the next couple of rounds, but what is encouraging is that he was engaged. But losing serve twice when serving for the set and match in a not-so-competitive match? Maybe there was a little improvement but the players ranked in the 40's will run him ragged.  He's going to have to train hard for the 2016 season if he wants to have a chance. The ? is, does he want it enough to do that?

agreed.

I remain worried.



my biggest worry is that he is going to get hurt and that will be the end.


I don't know why he is doing this. this is not rocket science.


he cant beat these guys with his current game and his remedial fitness.



I don't know why he cant train 7-8 hours a day. you break that into 2 long workouts.



what is the point in losing to these unknown players when he owned winning records against all of the top 30 players.



why go to battle unprepared.

It's so baffling in one way, but then again, it kind of backs up what he's been saying all along. I don't remember Rafa making claims that he wanted to be the greatest or even play after a certain point. I think he was satisfied with where he was and grateful to have gotten there, but the thought of chasing status never seemed to be a priority for him. That's what you need if you want to scale new heights. There's been many times that he's said that he wasn't trying to catch Federer and I think he meant it. He was playing for himself, not the history books.

In that sense he's already accomplished more than he ever dreamed of. Nothing about his background suggests that he would have the same ardor as other top players. As soon as a big tournament is over he heads straight back to Mallorca to relax with family and friends and work on his foundation.

He reminds me of Lleyton Hewitt so much. They both play for the love of the game and being competitive, not the love of external things. That's why they can accept losses so easily and continue to suit up. I think Rafa will play until he no longer enjoys it, but it will be for his reasons and no one else.

If he was concerned about staying the best, becoming the major leader he would make changes. That's what you do when you're focused on a particular goal. He would hire a world class physio, train in eight hour blocks, and fix the problems he has in his game. Right now I think he's only playing for the fans who clamor to see him on court and he doesn't want to disappoint them, but as for his own goals, he's satisfied with what he has done.

If it wasn't for the fans, I think he'd quit and go live his life.

It's hard to explain, but I understand it. I find it vulgar to chase about status. I don't feel that I need to prove anything to anyone and the thought of proving others wrong means nothing to me. When I was in karate my sensei wanted to make me his star pupil because I was a natural. But those were his dreams not mine and I felt no obligation to fulfill his desires. I didn't need to be a champion I was doing karate for myself. To strengthen my body and mind and push myself to its limits. I walked away when something else took my interest away. My sensei kept trying to get me to come back, but I had accomplished my goals and was done. The trophies that were gathering dust in my basement were put out in the trash, but what I'd done was inside of me.

A good example of Rafa's mindset was the AO 2009. After that grueling SF with Verdasco he was beat and wasn't going to play the final. If it hadn't been for Uncle Toni he wouldn't have competed at all. It was his relentless will to win at that time that got him through. Also, when he was beating Novak and Andy at a good clip, he always respected their talent. He never thought he was "better" than them but thought they were very worthy opponents. Many people don't understand that. They say, "he can't be that humble and be that good" but the opposite is true. No matter how good you are, the strength is in knowing both your strengths and weaknesses. To pretend that you have no weaknesses is foolish. And talking "confident" means nothing. If people are silly enough to buy into that, that's on them. Saying I'm not playing well is the truth, period. What's the point of saying otherwise? The thing about the fake it tll you make it, is BS to me. The problem with that attitude is that it's fake, how is that good? I don't think you need to assure people that you've still got it speaks to a need for validation. If I'm playing bad, I'm playing bad. Why would I have to need to convince others?

Rafa will ultimately decide whether he wants to go on and records, status, and history in the game will not be a priority for him. He will be satisfied with what he accomplished. Will he regret it later? He might, but if given the same choice I think he'd opt for the same decision.

Everyone is unique and no one is held to anyone else's standards. That's what so many people don't seem to understand. The only person you should ever choose to prove anything to is yourself, everything else is incidental.

great post.




I think you hit on most the points. you are spot on.




he really doesn't want to bother with the brutal training and the endless focus required to dominate the sport.


he walked away from the sport.


more on this later.

This right here is the problem. He isn't committed to the sport right now. I just don't understand why he's fooling himself. It's like he's phoning it in. If so, just say that, but when you're cramping after a two set match just admit you're not committed or motivated at this point.

Sampras just came out and said that he is playing like his career is over.



well that is just another way of saying this:



1. he does not really care to go out there and fight, battle, and compete to be the best he can be.


2. his best days are behind him


3. he is probably done because he has been out there a while.   and has spent considerable mental, emotional, and physical capital in the process.



but we at Camelot saw all this coming well over 2 years ago.


and may have even got a glimpse of it all as early as 2009.


we knew how it was going to unfold as early as 2009 if he was not going to back off or back away from his infatuation from the hard courts:

we knew that in the end that infatuation would kill his clay game and surely his hard court game.


and sure enough it did.


more on this tomorrow.