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« Reply #900 on: November 02, 2013, 08:13:15 pm »
I was not able to see the match general freaky.

was ferru just too good today?

Way too good. The guy couldn't miss.

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« Reply #901 on: November 02, 2013, 08:46:15 pm »
ferru is a human backboard.


can you imagine if he had been about 6 foot 2?

all he lacks is height.

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« Reply #902 on: November 02, 2013, 09:32:36 pm »
let me know if any other categories you would like to be added to the main page of Camelot.


looks like there is something for everybody now. we are simple and yet somewhat elegant in my estimation anyway.

and we don't want to be a forum. we just want to be a cool tennis society.


there are 10 million forums of one kind or another on the internet. and there are plenty of complex and sophisticated tennis forums out there.

I think we should be different and have our own unique proposition.

we will continue to tinker around until we can come up with exactly the right format that suits us the best.

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« Reply #903 on: November 02, 2013, 09:43:12 pm »
Djokovic, Federer in same group






AP - Sports Content preferences Done Djokovic, Federer in same group at ATP finals .View gallery
Serbia's Novak Djokovic returns the ball to Switzerland's Roger Federer during their semifinal match, …LONDON (AP) -- Roger Federer has won one title in the past 14 months, at a low-key tournament this summer. The ATP Finals are his last chance for a big victory this season.

''I still have another week where I have to give it all. After, it will be long holidays,'' Federer said after losing to Novak Djokovic 4-6, 6-3, 6-2 on Saturday in the Paris Masters semifinals in their first meeting this year.

The pair was placed in the same group at the season-ending, eight-man finals, which start Monday.

Djokovic, who won his 16th straight match in Paris against Federer, is the defending champion in London, where he beat Federer in the final last year. Djokovic also won the title in 2008, while Federer has won it a record six times.

Federer and Djokovic, who faced off for the 30th time, will be playing in a tough Group B that also includes the in-form Juan Martin del Potro and Richard Gasquet.

Federer said he will focus on his recovery ahead of Tuesday's match against Djokovic.

''I'm always excited about those challenges,'' said Federer, who will be competing for the 12th straight year in the ATP Finals. ''I have had a good couple of weeks now, and the most important thing is to recover as much as I can, so maybe the extra day I will get over Novak now, who knows, could be an advantage. But I doubt it.''

Federer, who won his last Grand Slam title at Wimbledon in 2012, has only two victories against top-10 opponents in 2013. He registered the first one in January against then-No. 8 Jo-Wilfried Tsonga in the Australian Open quarterfinals before a series of defeats against opponents outside the top 50. He confirmed his recent improvements with a win over del Potro in Paris this week.

''I played a lot of tennis during the past 10 or 12 days. It gave me a lot of information,'' Federer said. ''I know what I have to do now. I know what I did well, what I can improve. I know physically where I am, and mentally I have a lot of confidence. I know my body is keeping it up.''

Del Potro said he was the victim of a theft at a train station in Paris on his way to London, having his suitcase stolen as he stopped to sign an autograph. The tall Argentine lost his passport and a personal item in the incident.

''I don't know who asked me for an autograph but I turned round and they took my suitcase,'' he said. ''But I got here and it happens in every country. I have my rackets and my clothes but nothing else. I lost personal things, my rosary that the Pope blessed in Rome, which is important to me. But it's over and I'm safe.''

Saturday's draw placed top-ranked Rafael Nadal in Group A alongside fellow Spaniard David Ferrer, Tomas Berdych and Stanislas Wawrinka. Nadal lost to Ferrer in the semifinals in Paris and will have a chance to avenge his loss when he plays him again in London on Tuesday.

The finals have a round-robin format, with the top two finishers reaching the semifinals.

Berdych and Wawrinka will open on Monday, followed by del Potro playing Gasquet.


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« Reply #904 on: November 02, 2013, 09:49:44 pm »
speaking of Sampras, becker is on record for saying that Sampras was the toughest player he ever faced.

anyway I have to run now.

see you all a little bit later.

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That's very true what Becker says about Sampras. Only those know what it's like to play again ta player like Sampras. There are a couple of things that stand out as far as Sampras is concerned. His lethal serve (both 1st and 2nd) and his mental strength. I saw so many matches of his live on TV, because back then I was a student so I had time to follow him around closely, and so I witnessed time and again how he remained extremely calm at crucial moments and under great pressure and came up with great shots. By that I don't only mean aces but also, his volleys or his abilities at the net. His serves are designed in a way, if they were to come back he would know exactly where to put it next; as in, he'd follow up with it. Raonic, for example, can't do it 50% of the time because he first, doesn't expect it to come back and so second, when they do, he can't come up with as good a volley as Sampras. Sampras is a natural volleyer while both Federer and Raonic aren't.

If Sampras were to meet with Federer, then he would break Federer mentally down as did Nadal but even more so, because of his serves and his ability at the net. Federer would find it very difficult to break Sampras' serve let alone do anything else. Federer is also not good at returning serve so that makes it even worse. A great returner like Agassi had no answer to Sampras' serves for example. Why would anyone think Federer would have better success at returning?

Sampras' mental strength truly stands out amongst all and he also had the luxury to either stay back of the court (while he's not serving and the game is playing on his opponent's serve, say, Agassi, Courier, Chang etc.) or be at the net because of his all court game. There's no one on this planet who'd be able to beat him 3 times in a row in GS finals on different surfaces. You know very well that it takes one hell of a game and mental attitude to stay at the top of ranking 6 years in a row and win 14 Majors. The fact that he had never won RG doesn't cut the argument much and does not at all negate his greatness. In fact, he felt too early in his career that he couldn't possibly continue to win both RG and Wimbledon back to back, given that they are both so close to each other, so he went with Wimbledon. He simply modeled his game that way, since back then, most of the courts were playing faster, so he needed to compromise and calculate his schedules that way.  Not to mention, he had to play on variety of surfaces and had to play against players who'd both be S&V and baseliners. Today's fans don't have the first hand idea about Sampras and whatever is in front them, they tend to think that's the best thing since the sliced bread. If they are witnessing it then it has to be that greatest thing on the planet. After all, it is all about them first.

Anyway, have fun!

I'll stick around until the end of this match. Federer has now become very error prone and playing with  less confidence. Nole, on the other hand, has cut down the errors and playing with more confidence as expected.

4-2 Nole, 3rd set. He should get the insurance break here.




that is an awesome post.

becker said that on a good day "you could not touch pete on any surface except for clay".


I think you are right. pete had massive mental strength and he was a superb athlete. he was also strong as hell.


a greek who fought like a Spartan.

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« Reply #906 on: November 03, 2013, 08:11:22 am »
2 swiss players are in the top 10 and 2 Spanish players are in the top 10.

and france, not to be denied, also placed 2 players in the top 10.

http://www.tennisexplorer.com/ranking/atp-men/



there are no americans in sight. tommy haas checks in at #12. he should be able to hit top 10 in 2014.

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« Reply #907 on: November 03, 2013, 08:40:36 am »
ferru is a human backboard.


can you imagine if he had been about 6 foot 2?

all he lacks is height.

Nothing to do with height, herc. Rod Laver, Ken Rosewal, Jimmy Connors etc. were all about the same height as Ferrer and yet they were multiple Slam winners. Connors in fact played in one of the toughest eras of men's tennis and yet that didn't stop him from winning a few Slams. So it's not the height but the genuine talent and the mentality that Ferrer lacks. He would have still been with as many titles as he has right now even if he was 6'2". He's a player who has maximized his abilities by working really, really hard and by staying consistent as nothing came naturally to him. Just like there are talented actors and there are actors who needed to polish their acting. Ferrer falls in the latter group. He's a hard earned tennis player. He's good but definitively not great with or without the height.

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« Reply #908 on: November 03, 2013, 08:48:58 am »

that is an awesome post.

becker said that on a good day "you could not touch pete on any surface except for clay".

I think you are right. pete had massive mental strength and he was a superb athlete. he was also strong as hell.

a greek who fought like a Spartan.

His mum's side is from the Spartan side actually so they do have a connection. Still, sometimes I wonder what made  Sampras so mentally tough. His parents would never watch him play because they would get so nervous to the point they would either to go to the mall  and hang out there or just go away on vacation. lol That's why you'd never see them in any of Sampras' matches during his whole career. But perhaps Sampras' himself wasn't too keen on it as he probably didn't want his parents to go through any tough time. Or he probably didn't want any weak link during a match as he might  have thought of it as a mental weakness instead of a support.

Anyway, you could tell from his body language how strongly he felt about his game during clutch times.

Time for Nole to strike back again to get the break back.

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« Reply #909 on: November 03, 2013, 08:55:35 am »
Don't like Ferrer's grunting at all.

Anyway, a lot of long rallies already. That's why I only prefer Federer against a player like Ferrer where he can easily put him away by being supremely aggressive and keeping the points short. I really hated Andy's match against Ferrer in the Miami final.

Anyway, no 'flashy winners' from Ferrer so far. One more chance for Nole to turn things around in the 1st set. Nole had a really slow start and doesn't really tend to pick up unless he's pushed.

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« Reply #910 on: November 03, 2013, 09:02:41 am »
Nole breaks and holds. 6-5 Nole. Ho hum.


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« Reply #911 on: November 03, 2013, 09:17:20 am »
Finally a great flashy shot from Ferrer.

Nole in the meantime breaks Ferrer again and takes the 1st set. But Ferrer opens up with a break again in the 2nd.

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« Reply #912 on: November 03, 2013, 09:26:45 am »
That was a must hold for Nole. One more break and he would have had to kiss goodbye to 2nd set.

Ferrer hanging stuff and playing well. Still a break ahead.

Time for Nole to strike.

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« Reply #913 on: November 03, 2013, 09:32:13 am »
Judging by the stats, the only area where Ferrer is ahead of Nole is the 1st serve %. Nole is leading in every other category.

Nole holds 2-3 but still a break down in the 2nd. Since this one was an early break, I am hoping Nole will be able to turn things around in this set as well.

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« Reply #914 on: November 03, 2013, 10:05:04 am »
Ferrer was serving for BOTH the first and second sets t 5:4 and got broken both times. That is unacceptable for a Top 5 player!

 

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