CAMELOT FANTASIES

“And remember, Nene did get a spinoff- and was slated to have another but something happened. What though?”

The only reason Nene got a wedding spinoff was because they gave Bethenney one and since Bethenney’s went over so well, they tried it again with Kandi, who also did very well. How could they have denied Nene? What would’ve been their excuse? Kandi’s wedding spinoff smashed Nene’s and it was Kandi who was voted Favorite Housewife since she came on the show. Nene has never trumped Kandi in any regard. 

“Remember, as you mentioned they "chose" her as the breakout star. She was getting the positive edits, she was the one who represented them for everything, she was getting all of the outside opportunities.
 Remember, during the Kenya and Porsha melee- Carlos didn't run to comfort Kenya- he ran to comfort Porsha- the one Nene supported.  Kenya was already getting the terrible edits.  Production seemed to be very team Nene. Why wouldn't they give her a show?”

They chose her because she was the only one that stood out in a cast filled with Sheree, Lisa, Kim, and DeShawn. The Big Poppa debacle tied their hands regarding Kim, but as soon as Kim and Kroy decided to get married, Kim became legitimate and was promptly given a spinoff followed by DBT. If you make someone a “breakout star” then you have to cater to them, so it makes sense to me that Carlos would’ve been protecting their investment. The only other show that I heard of Nene getting other than the wedding spinoff was a talk show, but even in that they did a test run and when Nene bombed, the show was scrapped. Kim, Kandi, Bethenney, or Lisa were subjected to that. Bravo announced their shows and they were immediately put into the rotation. Why didn’t they do that with Nene? She’s the only one who has had to “prove” herself.
They could’ve been leery of Kenya since she was new to the show and they didn’t “know her.” There were no guarantees that Kenya would come back, but Nene they could depend on every season to be back which is another reason why they pandered to her. 

“Something happened but, what? Princess told us that Nene became jealous of Carlos and Kenya's relationship and we put 2and 2 together about Carlos calling Kenya the star at "pillow talk" which incensed Nene. But what caused Carlos to switch teams?”

I think that Carlos recognized Kenya’s strength and perseverance. He knew that she was given the bad edits, but look at how Kenya dealt with that? She went on a forgiveness tour and that had to be impressive. Carlos may have recognized Kenya’s star quality at that point which could’ve created a divide between him and Andy; who thought Nene was the star and Kenya the interloper. 

....And Did Carlos and Andy have some kind of power struggle?  Team Nene vs Team Kenya amongst production? What kind of relationship do those two have?   Carlos and Andy.

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head. I believe the struggle was about those two. Carlos
came to his senses and realized that Kenya could very well replace Nene, but Andy, because of his mindset would not see it that way for the reasons that I stated in another post. What Nene was doing was textbook, for Andy, Kenya probably seemed like the formula, similar to all the hoopla when Bill Cosby’s show came on. Remember that, many people thought that it wouldn’t appeal to the mainstream, and or be believable.

“Did Andy tweet a heartfelt goodbye to Carlos when he left?  I don't remember one. Did Carlos ever say he enjoyed working with Andy after he left?  I never saw that. Maybe Andy didn't like Carlos  befriending Kenya. I believe there is something there. But what?”

I didn’t do Twitter at the time, but I don’t recall hearing anything regarding the split between Andy and Carlos.

“I think the wrinkle with Nene is that somewhere along the line, Nene's ratings started to slip. Maybe they realized her spinoff ratings weren't as high as they initially expected or maybe her ratings on RHOA started to drop after the spinoff. You know, maybe Bravo wanted to give Nene a show (She was their Golden child after all) but, they could not find sponsors for it because of her ratings.”

Nene’s ratings were never in the ascendancy, Kandi immediately surpassed Nene in that regard her first season. There were/are articles noting that Nene’s spinoff numbers were nowhere near as good as Kandi’s. The following year they realized that Nene’s scenes were the lowest rated. Considering that they had hyped Nene up as “The Golden Child” it only made sense for them to give her exposure, that’s why I think all of those opportunities came from Bravo and not Nene’s agent. It would’ve helped Bravo financially if Nene had been accepted, but that fool went other places doing her Nene schtick and put Bravo in a bad light.

“By season 7 Andy started to turn on her. Why?  Was it her repeated disrespectful reference to gays especially at the season 6 reunion where she also disrespected him personally? We know she became horrible to production once Kenya came on. Remember too, she is probably bitter towards Bravo because of  Kandi, who to date has had 3 spinoffs. One lasting for 2 seasons.  Another reason why she hates Kandi.”

It could be because Bravo was the hype machine trying to make their investment pay off and Nene thought it was due to her own efforts. Remember, if Bravo wasn’t working behind the scenes and let Nene know that they were getting her these jobs, the ever tactless Nene would have been boasting about it, so they couldn’t let her know, because didn’t that agent suddenly lose his touch? I don’t think it was the agent getting her those jobs, but Bravo from the beginning. So, we have Nene thinking she’s the chit, and Bravo getting ticked off because they knew that she wasn’t the top dog, she was only being portrayed that way. That would make me mad if I’m pulling strings for you, and you are being disrespectful not knowing which side your bread is buttered on

What caused Carlos AND Andy to turn on her?  Something happened during filming for season 6 for Carlos and season 7 it spiraled out of control with Andy visibly dissing her. If Andy NEVER liked her why did he wait till season 7 to show it? Why would he show his hand if he was conspiring secretly to ruin her?

“I answered that above, but to the last part, why would he show his hand? Because he’s the puppetmaster and the dummy got out of control and thought the roles were reversed. Here was this nitwit telling them what she was going to do, even though she salary had been cut, not realizing that they were the ones who stifled all of her activities, and she’s being rude to them? It makes perfect sense to me why they would no longer hide their disdain for her. 

“Your theory with her getting TTTT is interesting. I do believe that Bravo would conspire to ruin her. I even believe under particular circumstances her own agent would be in on it.   I have had this conversation with my fiancé back when this all started going downhill for Nene but, I don't know that I think Nene is so stupid to believe that a six episode game show was worth walking away from RHOA for, even at the behest of her agent.”

Well remember Nene was a FOH last season. Bravo balked at her presumptuous attitude that she could do whatever she wanted to and paid her accordingly, but Nene’s ego is so huge she probably thought that they would back down this season and not put the same offer on the table. What would make her walk away, how about the fact that Kenya, Kandi, and Phaedra; whose salary had not been cut were now making more money than her? TT reported that the other girls made more than Nene last season. Kandi at $900 and Kenya and Phaedra, I forget, I’ll look it up and post it.   

“I also agree with you that Bravo would never outright risk the backlash from the viewers who tune in for Nene. However, I believe they forced her out after negotiations failed- with the option to come back in the future as long as she agreed not speak to the press about it or give them bad press.”

That’s what I think. 

“Nene is being much too hard nosed about not returning this season, to have nothing planned or lined up. 
Why so emphatic about not appearing next season but possibly will return in the future to all the negativity she is claiming to walk away from?  You can tell by her interview on the 100th episode special that she did not intend to leave nor was she thinking about it. She said "I have a feeling we will be here for the 200th episode." Side bar: Andy was unmoved- his demeanor was very professional with her- not chummy. Only obligatory smiles and chuckles. Nene was very nice.  The smart mouth diva was MIA.”

I think Nene is banking on a ratings decline to “prove” her worth to the franchise. If they numbers remain the same or increase, she may lose again. Good for Andy, they have her over a barrel. He has no reason to be moved by what she says.

Nene with a long, sad face at the airport said money is not the reason she left so it stands to reason her problem is a personal or professional conflict with the network and YET she still has love for Bravo.  Not one negative word. Even more interesting is, she has admitted she would consider returning, so her reasons for leaving aren't ultimately based on her cast mates.   These same girls will likely still be there if she returns so, how would leaving for that reason be logical if she would consider returning with them still there?  There would be contingencies and She would make that known just as she did earlier.

If she’s banking on a decline in ratings I’m sure she thinks that based on her departure and lower ratings Bravo would change certain cast members.

“if money is not the reason she left- if she is willing "come back and play with these girls,"  and she still "loves" Bravo.....where does that leave us?”

Money is the reason since she’s getting a fraction of her previous salary, but she can’t say that since she’s been going around for years talking about how rich she is and how she made a million two years ago, and got a $500,000 raise last year. The truth is she’s getting $500,000 and that’s got to hurt her pocket. The ratings decline is what Nene is banking on.

“I don't think she had a choice. I believe they let her go/forced her out but presented some caveat to make her keep her mouth shut.”

Yep.

“If RHOA ratings do not suffer, I believe she's out. If the ratings tank they will just snatch her back. They know Nene is not so marketable that she will not need them by next season. Besides if Bravo is in cahoots with the agent she will be available come next season.”

Absolutely, and remember Nene’s numbers on social media are padded. So where does that leave her? Comments around the internet point to her departure bringing viewers back, instead of people leaving in droves. 

"Anything is possible, GetReal but something is definitely going on with Nene.  Things are not normal in her camp at all. Nene did 2 sitcoms along with RHOA so we know Nene will take as many checks as she can get. I don't believe she would walk away from that RHOA check and I don't believe an agent who was working in her best interest would advise that."

Something is not right.....and now the odd tweet from Anthony Anderson on TTTT.  He did answer her back by the way (saying on my way. Joking?) but I checked all of their twitters Betty White, Anthony Anderson, Jaylen Rose, Trace Ellis Ross, no one is talking about the show, no one is mentioning her name, not posting any pics with her and  JR and AA answered her tweets with no more than 2-3 words. Courteous brush offs but that is it, meanwhile she's running around like a da*n groupie taking selfies with the celebrities and of herself in her dressing room. Lol.  Noone seems to be feeling her. Notice there are no pics of She and Betty on her twitter?

I have to start checking Twitter. I saw a picture of her and Tracee, does that count?

I don’t think Kenya should be saying anything. She should stay out of the fray and let Nene self-destruct. Putting the two P’s in there is not a good move, IMO.

 “Your comparison of her and Nene is true and ironic since I believe her character on The Game and Steve Harvey show is the personality Nene strived for- fabulous, wise cracking successful, Diva. Only Nene failed miserably and was very unlikeable.”

You got that right, LOL.